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c9++ Civs win

romanovKU said:
all in all, this is why c9++ is a great format. the setups are balanced, varied, and typically have fun puzzles in the midgame that don't completely overtake reading players in the endgame (if people are smart).
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It was frustrating being hit n1. Was pretty sure it was JTP trying to revenge kill me, but it kept me from claiming anything. If I'd have killed TIM (never though about it) I wonder if maf would have thought he saved me. I do like C++ though.
 
RedSoxFaithful said:
I'm acknowledging that it's a shitty situation for Toogs. I'm just not sure what you think should have been done differently; I think neither me nor tic realized it was a potential argument until it had already become one.
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Know the rule? Ask about the rule if you don't before you write an essay calling everyone idiots when you're wrong?
 
gouda said:
It was frustrating being hit n1. Was pretty sure it was JTP trying to revenge kill me, but it kept me from claiming anything. If I'd have killed TIM (never though about it) I wonder if maf would have thought he saved me. I do like C++ though.
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Were you sure it was your BPV being popped N1? I mean, we know that now, but what were you thinking in game time?
 
also im not sure how a vig should play c9++. the odds of hitting a full special, not just a one shot are very low. i withheld n2 because there were no obvious mafia kills and we didn't know a sk existed at the time.
 
gouda said:
It was frustrating being hit n1. Was pretty sure it was JTP trying to revenge kill me, but it kept me from claiming anything. If I'd have killed TIM (never though about it) I wonder if maf would have thought he saved me. I do like C++ though.
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Also I have no idea if I am supposed to tell the SK his BPV is gone. I can't remember anyone ever taking the BPV before.
 
RedSoxFaithful said:
the knight/jtp interactions might be a fun place to look
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timdunkandthefunk said:
Good. Don't be a lazy gouda and vote for me, you're better than that.
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jtpterp said:
knight tried to kill me based on dumb logic about manning.

it ended up getting his dumb butt lynched. lol@him.
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RedSoxFaithful said:
that's not clearing of you, tbh

the stuff with him theorizing about you and manning didn't get called out until I brought them up this morning
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man, this shit happened RIGHT before the tic argument. wish I had FOCUSED.
 
Toogs said:
Also I have no idea if I am supposed to tell the SK his BPV is gone. I can't remember anyone ever taking the BPV before.
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nah i don't think you tell them. statistically, if the sk takes the bpv, and there is no hit that night, it is so much more likely that the mafia hit the sk than 1) a doctor or rb is in the game, and 2) the doc or rb affected the mafia hit. that's enough to assume imo
 
romanovKU said:
nah i don't think you tell them. statistically, if the sk takes the bpv, and there is no hit that night, it is so much more likely that the mafia hit the sk than 1) a doctor or rb is in the game, and 2) the doc or rb affected the mafia hit. that's enough to assume imo
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whelp, I did, then immediately wondered if I should have. I think typically I would anyway but in this game I agree I shouldnt have.
 
tic said:
100% this. I talked to Toogs about it while it was happening and he told me he couldn't say anything or it would impact the game and I agreed. I wasn't going to come back after my discussion with him and say "WELL ACTUALLY, IT IS POSSIBLE AND I KNOW FOR A FACT". That fucks everything. It was better how we handled it.
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it still kinda fucked me over a little bit

you used it to clear him.
 
gouda said:
It was frustrating being hit n1. Was pretty sure it was JTP trying to revenge kill me, but it kept me from claiming anything. If I'd have killed TIM (never though about it) I wonder if maf would have thought he saved me. I do like C++ though.
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I didn't make the call to try to kill you night 1

<3
 
When I was the sk I was informed my bpv was hit. Also, I love the butthurt from RSF this game
 
also

Knight somehow decided I looked like garbage when nobody else thought I did re: the manning stuff so he decided he was going to bus me.

SO I FLIPPED THE SCRIPT AND BUSSED HIM
 
jtpterp said:
it still kinda fucked me over a little bit

you used it to clear him.
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It definitely helped influence my position, but technically, he could have pulled all that shit as mafia.
 
tic said:
It definitely helped influence my position, but technically, he could have pulled all that shit as mafia.
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I tried to argue that you would hear nothing of it.

and then he said it would be angle shooting if he were mafia.

well........ if it's angle shooting for mafia to do it, it should be angle shooting for a civ to do it.
 
gouda said:
It was frustrating being hit n1. Was pretty sure it was JTP trying to revenge kill me, but it kept me from claiming anything. If I'd have killed TIM (never though about it) I wonder if maf would have thought he saved me. I do like C++ though.
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I lobbied for Rommy to die, because I was worried about you being protected. DV7 said you were less likely to be protected.
 
Toogs said:
In this format if only the RB remains, he may choose to RB instead of hit. Otherwise our standard ruleset is mafia must hit. HOWEVA I think in this format the mafia should not be forced to hit going forward.
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Toogs said:
you are completely incorrect, and your focus on "the" was really silly. "may" is the key word. And I am pretty sure most places don't make the mafia hits compulsory period. There is just very rarely a time when they wouldn't want to.
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I can see it in general but why this format in particular? Just cause there is confusion on set up?

I remember sometime last year in a game rommy was modding I wanted to not hit as maf to frame somebody as a liar. I agree the times mafia wouldn't want to are rare, but there are times it would be beneficial for maf to not hit
 
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