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Wake NC State 7:30 PM ESPNU Night Game!

There may be games on the schedule every year that I want to win more than the State game, but somehow few wins are ever more enjoyable than beating them.
 
Deac83 said:
Wolford is footballs version of Josh Howard. As a soph many in our fan base did not support them. By their senior year pretty universally loved and playing like 4 year seniors should.
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Well, except Josh wasn't faced with the prospect of not seeing the court during his senior year. Wolford was beat up, much maligned, and designated to the backup role and yet he kept playing and proved himself and went on to have a historic season. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Not really. A failed challenge would’ve cost us a time-out we may have needed if State had scored and gone up 1 and we would’ve had to try to get in FG range. Spot challenges aren’t often overturned unless really egregious. I thought the same thing when it happened, but when I thought about it after the game I understood his thinking there.
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Timeouts aren’t that important with clock stopping on first downs. 2 would have been plenty. Plus we’d have only needed a FG. Game is all but over when you win challenge.

Clawson coaches to avoid worst case scenarios. And maybe that’s good or important. But I’d like to see us put it on the line a little more.
 
John Wolford should be in the room when they present the Heisman award to Baker Mayfield.
 
DeacLaw05 said:
There may be games on the schedule every year that I want to win more than the State game, but somehow few wins are ever more enjoyable than beating them.
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I think it’s the fact they bring a lot of fans, some are obnoxious and it’s fun seeing them go home unhappy. Same with Clemson, but that doesn’t happen very often.
 
SDeacz said:
Timeouts aren’t that important with clock stopping on first downs. 2 would have been plenty. Plus we’d have only needed a FG. Game is all but over when you win challenge.

Clawson coaches to avoid worst case scenarios. And maybe that’s good or important. But I’d like to see us put it on the line a little more.
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I agree except it’s nice to have that extra timeout if you think you’re going to need it to ball the center for your kicker and get the FG unit out on the field, which would’ve been the situation had State gone up 1.
 
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IamThunderbolt said:
From being at the game, one thing that I noticed is that we tackled very well in space. We didn't give up any big plays due to missed tackling
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Great observation. Noticed this too.

And also our coverage was softish. Except for the Stop and go route we got burned on, we made State take ~5 yards all the way down the field to score. Avoided big plays. Kept ball in front of us and tackled well. Felt like their bigger “chunk” plays came when we blitzed and couldn’t get to QB. Duke was missed a lot. State was patient and took what we gave them.
 
SDeacz said:
Great observation. Noticed this too.

And also our coverage was softish. Except for the Stop and go route we got burned on, we made State take ~5 yards all the way down the field to score. Avoided big plays. Kept ball in front of us and tackled well. Felt like their bigger “chunk” plays came when we blitzed and couldn’t get to QB. Duke was missed a lot. State was patient and took what we gave them.
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We did a good job against the run too. They had some yards, but we didn’t give up really big plays on the ground for the most part.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
I agree except it’s nice to have that extra timeout if you think you’re going to need it to ball the center for your kicker and get the FG unit out on the field, which would’ve been the situation had State gone up 1.
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I don’t care where we put ball. I’d have hated to rely on Weaver there. I’m pretty sure that extra point was on him too. And 2 or 3 timeouts, would have been tough to go length of field in short time on them. Think their defense was still tough even though we had some success.

I think best chance to win game was challenge spot. And then throw to get a first down or 2.
 
DCDeacon said:
Well, except Josh wasn't faced with the prospect of not seeing the court during his senior year. Wolford was beat up, much maligned, and designated to the backup role and yet he kept playing and proved himself and went on to have a historic season. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it.
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Not saying an exact match but both were much maligned, especially in their soph more years. And it you want to talk about parallels Howard was playing on one leg at the end of his Jr year. Both have worked hard on their games to shut up the critics.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Yeah I mean if he would’ve challenged I don’t think it would’ve been wrong to do, but I can also understand why he didn’t. I just don’t see a lot of spot challenges overturned. Be a good question for the radio show this week.
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Not that ESPNU ever showed the play again, but remember this was not a dive up the middle with a pile of players to sort out, Finley went right and this is a case where the position of the ball when the knees hit might have been very visible.
 
SDeacz said:
3rd and 5.
Punting against decent breeze. With inconsistent punter
You don’t have your best Dlineman or DB on Defense
Your QB is poised enough to know if no one is open, tuck it and run.
You play to win the game. Not to hope you don’t lose.
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agree with this 100%
watching the game in real time it seemed to me the play we ran was not a standard read option; all the keys suggested Wolford should have kept it but he did not
which to me suggests that he was told to give it to Colburn no matter what

I understand the rationale for that call if indeed it was made (generally if the defense is desperate and trying to strip the ball I'd prefer a running back have it to a smallish qb); I just disagree with it given Wolford's experience level

it all worked out and we won; credit to Wolford, Hines, and the D for making plays when we needed them
 
SDeacz said:
I don’t care where we put ball. I’d have hated to rely on Weaver there. I’m pretty sure that extra point was on him too. And 2 or 3 timeouts, would have been tough to go length of field in short time on them. Think their defense was still tough even though we had some success.

I think best chance to win game was challenge spot. And then throw to get a first down or 2.
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I don't think the kick was on him.
They bull rushed right up the middle and overwhelmed the play. To me, it looked like the failure was on the line
 
Neurodeac said:
John Wolford should be in the room when they present the Heisman award to Baker Mayfield.
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Would obviously be thrilled to see this happen but there’s little chance right? Would take a major PR effort from some bigger voices in college football media to bring the last-minute exposure. Let’s hope he gets 300 yards and 3 TDs again next week.
 
Until John Wolford throws a football as hard as he can at a defenders face while falling out of bounds, the comparisons to Josh Howard need to stop.
 
Very little chance. His numbers aren't going to surpass Jackson this year. He's going to have a tough time getting All-ACC because the league is so strong at QB. Feels weird to say that growing up in an era in which ACC QBs were generally weak.
 
I like going for win, but run was definitely the play there based on how State would be playing defense. State walked the safeties down into the box and the DBs were manned up on the receivers. Any kind of play action or slow developing plays would have blown up by pressure and the only way a receiver would be open in the quick-game is if he won a one-on-one matchup vs a DB.
 
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