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KP St. Joe's Preview 11:30 AM (YES AM) Thursday November 15

WakeForest Fan said:
why do people continue to think Sarr is an outstanding player?
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Because the story is that Manning develops big men. Sarr was built up the entire offseason. It's going to take a few games for people to slow their roll.
 
RacerDeac said:
Because the story is that Manning develops big men. Sarr was built up the entire offseason. It's going to take a few games for people to slow their roll.
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i just remember last year a lot of people were fawning over him. i'm not sure people watched him today.
 
CharlotteDeac1 said:
I agree with what you said on Collins here. The biggest thing that I think helped him explode (that has to do with Manning) was playing in the type of offense we had - which is still what he excels at on the NBA level. I think Manning & staff recognized that and utilized it. It is their crowning achievement in 4+ years, which says a lot about the state of the program currently.
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I graciously concede and grant you that point. Indeed. But he's also coaching defense like Paul Westhead did when he coached for one season in the NBA. ;-) He's trying to be Duke West with the high screen and roll approach, but he doesn't have the depth of athletes, take-over-the-game PG and menacing coaching presence on the sideline, despite his 6'10" (and shrinking) frame. Not sure what the hell he learned from his supposed mentor Larry Brown as even LB knew how to get his teams to play some modicum of D. It's almost like No Chill is right that if you have the players, it almost doesn't matter what you do as a coach! But we know that's not quite true. However, I'm sure you and no one else here probably wants to get further into the weeds on coaching philosophy, concepts and psychology.

But we all know it when we see it, or can see that it isn't there! :)
 
knowell said:
We really don't know how much Manning helped Collins. We have seen no similar jumps made by any of the other bigs here in the same time.

Logic says that Collins was just likely a really good player from the get go. He sure looked the part whenever he played.
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He was. And our genius coach refused to play him as a freshman, so we got one year out of him.
 
Only DM could make JC look pedestrian in his frosh year. We go 3 guard most of time with BC, CMM and Mitch averaging 30 mins/game or more and Cornelius Hudson going 23 mins/game to name a few while JC only averages 14 mins/game. I GUARANTEEEE you a coach K or Royboy sees the talent and has him playing over a lame 3 guard with CAA player Wilbekin seeing the bench. Just amazing how DM cannot manage a team.
 
saltydeac said:
Only DM could make JC look pedestrian in his frosh year. We go 3 guard most of time with BC, CMM and Mitch averaging 30 mins/game or more and Cornelius Hudson going 23 mins/game to name a few while JC only averages 14 mins/game. I GUARANTEEEE you a coach K or Royboy sees the talent and has him playing over a lame 3 guard with CAA player Wilbekin seeing the bench. Just amazing how DM cannot manage a team.
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It's the easiest part of coaching. Play your best players.
 
Ronnie should be attending the tourney in Conway- if we go o'fer he damn well better pull the trigger then.
 
haha. I have so many of you on ignore that I don't get a sense of how tight the panties are bunched. Suffice it to say we essentially make the same mistakes with this group we made with a whole different set of players. That is the beginning of a narrative that will find Manning out of work.

That said, we played an experienced, well coached team who had three guys returning from injury who missed all of last year, so I felt that this was a good lesson for our younger guys (on how you run an offense, attack weaknesses, return to sets that are working and attack quicker players off the dribble.

The first half was a lot of fun. We have a lot of young talent.

The troubling piece to me is that I saw the potential for Hoard to play for numbers and draft position, not for team. He could have just been playing crazy out of control at times, but that is my fear.

I am sure a lot of you are seeing this as Manning sucks/blows/needs to go.

It is the equivalent of wasting great weed without the love/lust of your life around. Missed opportunity. For the goof who thought this was a great time to call Wellman, I believe we call that premature ejacuverizon in the buisness. Just outing yourself to the brass as a horrible clueless fan/alumn.

Must wait for the narrative to emerge. Zombies don't eat Jim's brain as soon as he wake's up from his coma in 28 Days Later; he has to wander thru the empty trash strewn streets of London for 10 minutes first, and then burst into a church before he is even chased. That is building the narrative.

Incidentally, best zombie movie ever.

Queue the Manning zombie jokes, except for the usual trage-set as I have you on old ignore(amous).
 
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cheeseheads12 said:
Poor business plan.

Time to enjoy the sand.

#sameoldsameold
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That'd be good punishment for the team, some good ole Navy Seal cold surf torture and making "sugar cookies.'' The coaches would have to participate too though.
 
jaybone said:
That is the beginning of a narrative that will find Manning out of work.

That said, we played an experienced, well coached team who had three guys returning from injury who missed all of last year, so I felt that this was a good lesson for our younger guys (on how you run an offense, attack weaknesses, return to sets that are working and attack quicker players off the dribble.
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1) no narrative needed, Danny is in way over his big noggin

2) a lesson for the younger guys?? Isn't it Danny's job to teach them lessons, not "show" them by letting them get their asses run in the 2nd half of a game by a much better bald-headed, non-NBA pensioned coach?

You are a piece of work jaybone...what exactly is your point? Be #patient like CMM?? So we can pull for these guys when they are finally achieving success in the 3rd year overseas playing for some team in Turkey? I'm usually just happy when our Wake alums make it out of Europe without dying in a stupid terrorist attack at the hands of Hamas or ISIS. But yeah, can't wait to hear about how Brandon was tearing up the Tunisian summer league in a few years.
 
Premature. 5 years of doing the same thing, but premature.

Some people just learn really slow.
 
Just came to check in and see how Wake played today. The good news is that Wake had a pretty special season the last time that Wake lost to St. Joe's!! #NEWBEGINNINGS
 
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