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DeacHead said:
I've softened my initial hatred of Lower Decks. Perhaps I started off too harshly with residual ST:picard hate. I'm not going to say it's great, but not worthy of disdain. For a comedy, the Easter eggs are pretty funny and not purely fan service. At least it's fan service with a purpose.

I certainly can't be swayed to be optimistic about Disco based on one trailer as long as Kurtzman has influence. I noticed he didn't have a writer's credit for the S3 premier, so that's a ray of hope, maybe he's going to be less hands-on this season.

The worst thing about Kurtz trek is it now has Youtube's algorithm thinking I'm part of the "go woke go broke", "the sjw agenda ruined Trek (or insert other long running franchise that's always promoted social progress)" crowd. After watching Picard reviews from RLM, Youtube began recommending other reviewers and I watched a couple without knowing who they were. It turns out they were the various "gate" types (e.g. gamergate, comicsgate). Now YT starts autoplaying neckbeards ranting about "of course they made the buffoon a STRAIGHT WHITE GUY". I guess I have to start actively downvoting those vids.

As for worst, at least Disco was first of the consecutive series with the season long arc "AI wants to destroy sentient life" so it didn't appear as derivative as ST:picard. Obviously this is a VERY well worn trope in sci-fi but 2 consecutive seasons? C'mon.

Help us Strange New Worlds, you're our only hope.
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yeah, +1 to basically all of this. I'm not saying watch the Red Letter Media guys but watch the RLM guys. Best take on what's wrong with Trek right now from people who know and love but are not slavish about the IP.
 
Lower Decks E4 (the one about the colony ship) was the first real episode of Star Trek since Enterprise went off the air.
 
Shooshmoo said:
The gore was a little too much for my wife, so we stopped watching S.1 after the 2nd episode -- bingeing now on my own, and so far it is easily my favorite super hero show so far.
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ayyyy
 
Yeah, its pretty great. All in on everything except the over the top silly Deep storyline with dolphins.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
Lower Decks E4 (the one about the colony ship) was the first real episode of Star Trek since Enterprise went off the air.
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I think you can have legit criticisms of Disco and Picard without going the whole "Not MY Trek" route. Gatekeeping fandom sucks. If it's on TV and it's called "Star Trek" then it's a real episode of Star Trek
 
hey, if you like the show(s), that's great. i hope people will start with the new stuff and it'll introduce them to Star Trek.

it's not gatekeeping to think that a star trek show should at least have fundamental optimism rather than naked cynicism
 
I liked the AMC version a lot, and I don't think it ever felt censored by being on cable (there was *plenty* of gore, and iirc a healthy dose of "fucks")

I'm not sure what being on Amazon would've fixed
 
I hope that Kang isn't wasted as a one off in Ant-Man 3 of all places. But I have to feel like if they're setting up Kang, it's to be the next Thanos level bad.
 
No way he's wasted in one movie. Think he'll be built up for phase 5 and work towards doom in phase 6 or later.
 
Loki sums up my initial though exactly. Kang ain't equivalent to Yellow Jacket. He's more of an overarching Thanos level threat. I always associate him with FF, which may be wrong since even though he's Reed's dad he's had more Avengers stories. In the time I'm willing to allocate to searching, I couldn't find if he was in the Marvel or the Sony bucket before the takeover.
 
He was FOX with FF. Putting him in this film makes sense because Ant-Man and the Wasp besides Endgame to deal with the quantum realm which is how they do time travel.
 
TenaciousKory said:
It's by far and away my favorite superhero anything.
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It's pretty fucking boss. It's really helped me shake away from the Marvel Universe. I am/was exhausted with super hero movies. I still haven't seen them all.

Shooshmoo said:
Yeah, its pretty great. All in on everything except the over the top silly Deep storyline with dolphins.
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The Deep's story is awkward as fuck. I don't even know what they're going for, because the dude is handsome/cut as fuck, but has a super-easy-to-hide thing he doesn't like about himself. That's like 99% of the population without being handsome/cut as fuck. Like, god damn, who fucking cares?

From a storytelling perspective, it's a struggle for me that Homelander is basically impervious/a god, while everyone else is just kinda...not. I get that the comics address this issue, but I hope that's not the direction the show goes.
 
Pretty good Deep payoff in the 3rd episode of season 2, which is fucking diabolical.

The actor who plays Homelander deserves an emmy. That character is perfect.
 
deaconson said:
No way he's wasted in one movie. Think he'll be built up for phase 5 and work towards doom in phase 6 or later.
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I don't think we'll see a singular big bad like Thanos again. That trope has essentially been played. What we haven't necessarily seen is villains playing off one another the way the heroes have been (minor exceptions for Loki and Ronan with Thanos). I think we're going to get Kang, Doom, Galactus and the Beyonder (holding out hope for a well played Magneto) all leading towards Secret Wars where multiple villains will play an integral role. Lots of fertile ground with these characters.
 
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