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US News Rankings: We're No. 28! Yay......at $75K a year?

Ugh. He’s making a primarily political argument that doesn’t address the basic issues of demand for college graduates in the workplace. As long as employers want college graduates and are willing to pay more for graduates from prestigious institutions, people will take out loans to get degrees and get them from prestigious institutions.
 
PhDeac said:
Ugh. He’s making a primarily political argument that doesn’t address the basic issues of demand for college graduates in the workplace. As long as employers want college graduates and are willing to pay more for graduates from prestigious institutions, people will take out loans to get degrees and get them from prestigious institutions.
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Ah, like the strong candidates from App State, UNC-W, Phoenix University, and the roughly 1,000,000 fly-by-night online degree programs.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
My high school Chemistry, Biology, Anatomy and Physiology, and Calculus classes were all harder than my first year college classes.

Small town school in West Virginia. There are about 100 high schools in WV. The one I went to was/is in the top 5.
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This is not consistent with my experience or the experience of anyone I know. Wake is a difficult school and requires a lot of work - generalization, clearly, but generally true. Maybe things have changed a lot in the large amount of time since I was there? I was a science major so maybe that colors my view...
 
maybe the courses in HS were harder because he took them in HS and then, you know, did college after?
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
that site shows that only 36% of students are receiving grant aid, meaning that two-thirds of students are either paying full freight or taking on debt
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That’s a stunning statistic to me - hard to wrap my head around 64% paying full freight, whether up front or through debt. Breaking it down further, grants are probably a token amount for a majority of kids. Thinking there are lots of generous grandparents out there.
 
AMCDeac said:
That’s a stunning statistic to me - hard to wrap my head around 64% paying full freight, whether up front or through debt. Breaking it down further, grants are probably a token amount for a majority of kids. Thinking there are lots of generous grandparents out there.
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I assume merit scholarships don't count as grant aid - so a lot of kids are getting a lot of money that way.
 
I just filled out that calculator for where I think we'll be in 6 years when my oldest is in 12th grade.

I already knew my kids weren't going to go to Wake, but that was even worse than I thought.

Felt like it was this type of conversation:

"How much does it cost?"

"How much you got?"

"$20"

"Yeah, it cost $20."

I like how it's presented as "Hey! Don't just assume you can't afford to come to Wake! Confirm it with our handy calculator!"

I kind of wish I hadn't done it.
 
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Rafi said:
This is incorrect in regards to medicine. One is much more likely to get into medical school if they go to a highly ranked undergrad with a strong premed advising program and an affiliation with a medical school. Once you get into medical, it doesn’t matter much where you go to school or do your residency.
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I'm not sure what you do or where this opinion came from. But in my experience, it's not accurate at all
 
scooter84 said:
I assume merit scholarships don't count as grant aid - so a lot of kids are getting a lot of money that way.
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Good point. Would love to see a breakdown of what families are actually paying - excluding grants but including loans.
 
BacktoBack said:
I'm not sure what you do or where this opinion came from. But in my experience, it's not accurate at all
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I'm an academic physician that works on a medical school admissions committee.
 
Rafi said:
I'm an academic physician that works on a medical school admissions committee.
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#anecdotes but my buddy was summa cum laude majoring in Bio at Wake with above average test scores and got straight rejected by some pretty middle-of-the-road med schools
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
#anecdotes but my buddy was summa cum laude majoring in Bio at Wake with above average test scores and got straight rejected by some pretty middle-of-the-road med schools
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Exactly. Had he done the same at NC State, ECU, High Point, Elon, etc he would be straight rejected by all medical schools.
 
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