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the official new supreme court thread - Very political

“Make Libs Cry Again” seems to be his only value these days. So maybe he should reconsider his choice to abstain and vote his values.
 
If I ever have another job interview in my life I'm going to use this lady's strategy for answering direct questions and see how it works out.
 
“Social liberal” gleefully rubs a 40 some year old hard right socially conservative justice in the faces of other social liberals. This makes sense.
 
MichDeac25 said:
Wait. What? Is that sarcastic or aspirational?
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There is no question that the GOP base, as compared to the Democratic base, looks a great deal more like America generally looked fifty or a hundred years ago - heavily white, more rural, male-dominated, more devoutly conservative religious views, etc. Just look at the makeup of the current House of Representatives and see which party is far more diverse demographically. After the 2018 election the percentage of Republican women in the House actually dropped, while it rose to record numbers among House Democrats. It is also a fact that after Barrett is confirmed a majority of the Supreme Court will have been chosen by two presidents who were elected with a minority of the popular vote, and a third of the Court will have been chosen by a POTUS who lost the popular vote to his opponent by a record three million popular votes (no president has ever been elected after losing the popular vote by anything close to that margin.) Essentially, we have become a national society in which a majority of the people are being led by a shrinking minority of the population. If conservatives want to feel proud about that, then by all means go ahead, but they shouldn't expect their opponents to go along with it.
 
Highland Deac said:
There is no question that the GOP base, as compared to the Democratic base, looks a great deal more like America generally looked fifty or a hundred years ago - heavily white, more rural, male-dominated, more devoutly conservative religious views, etc. Just look at the makeup of the current House of Representatives and see which party is far more diverse demographically. After the 2018 election the percentage of Republican women in the House actually dropped, while it rose to record numbers among House Democrats. It is also a fact that after Barrett is confirmed a majority of the Supreme Court will have been chosen by two presidents who were elected with a minority of the popular vote, and a third of the Court will have been chosen by a POTUS who lost the popular vote to his opponent by a record three million popular votes (no president has ever been elected after losing the popular vote by anything close to that margin.) Essentially, we have become a national society in which a majority of the people are being led by a shrinking minority of the population. If conservatives want to feel proud about that, then by all means go ahead, but they shouldn't expect their opponents to go along with it.
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I understand. But DeacsPop is the one who said it in clarifying why he is a Republican and holds Republican values. So I wanted him to comment.
 
MichDeac25 said:
I understand. But DeacsPop is the one who said it in clarifying why he is a Republican and holds Republican values. So I wanted him to comment.
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He was saying what I said that he wanted me to clarify. I saw a good chart showing this the other day. I’ll find it and post it. It’s worth it’s own thread really. The demographic makeup of Dems in Congress is pretty similar to the country as a whole except it’s not 50-50 gender. The demographic make up Republicans is overwhelmingly white men much like before women’s suffrage and the Civil Rights movement only a few women in a few states could vote and only a few Black people could vote.
 
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MichDeac25 said:
I understand. But DeacsPop is the one who said it in clarifying why he is a Republican and holds Republican values. So I wanted him to comment.
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i just want him to say what he thinks are republican values since he gets all pissy when posters put words in his mouth
 
I made this its own thread, but here it is.

Here is the data for the chart as posted on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeau...entative_are_the_representatives_the/g31ajs3/

Religion Data: Pew - Faith on the Hill Pew Religious Survey,
Race/Ethinicity Data: Congressional Research Service, US Census
Gender Data: Congressional Research Service, US Census
Made with Excel
My notes:
-Data includes both the Senate and the House, for a total of 535 elected representatives (280 Dem and 255 Rep)
- By far and wide, the most underrepresented category in Congress is Unaffiliated/No religion/Atheists/Agnostics. While this group constitutes a whopping 25% of Americans (that's 1 in 4, or more than 80 million), only a single congressperson (Sinema - raised Mormon and currently non-affiliated with any religion) out of more than 500 is openly unaffiliated. This was according to Pew. Wikipedia reports 4 more (although this seems to be less whether they are openly non affiliated with any religion or simply it is not known), but that's still a total of only 5. One does keep in mind that elected politicians are usually older, and older people are more religious (although even over 65 more than 13% of people are non-religious).

- Similarly to above, keep in mind the difference between population, citizens, and voters (especially because of age). Voters are going to be less ethnically diverse because they do not include non-citizen immigrants (recent immigration tends to be non-white) and because they are older. Additionally, older white voters tend to vote a lot, hence Congress is a bit more demographically representative of the voter pool than it is to the general population.
- The Democratic Party is fairly well represented among religious and ethnic minorities. Interestingly, Jews, Catholics, and African-Americans/Blacks tend to be over-represented in the Democratic party. This isn't a coincidence, as these groups were the core of the Dem party in the 20th century. And while many older Catholics have voted Republican recently, this has been adjusted with the influx of Latino Catholics in the Dem party.

- The 2 or more races/ethnicity is hard to quantify and represent, hence why it's currently lacking in my images. This is because I decided to represent each congressperson equally, so those with more than one ethnicity were split 50/50 among the bins. It's a small number anyways (they're all spelled out in the CRS document if you want to read through). Kamala for example is among these

-White Christian males makes up around ~23% of the population, but account for a whopping 85% of Republican representatives (and about 28% of Democratic representatives).
-Finally, this isn't meant to be in any way judgmental, political, or trying to make a point. I just was curious to look at how demographics are reflected in the US population and in each party's Congressional representation.
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It’s going to be like Knight when he claimed Trump was his perfect policy president then listed a bunch of polices that Trump doesn’t support or even worse does the exact opposite of. Just breakout the republican list of hits like, states right, nope, decreasing the deficit, insert chart showing democrats decrease more than republicans, and stock market gains, insert chart of better gains during Democrat administrations.
 
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Louis Gossett Jr said:
It’s going to be like Knight when he claimed Trump was his perfect policy president then listed a bunch of polices that Trump doesn’t support or even worse does the exact opposite of. Just breakout the republican list of hits like, states right, nope, decreasing the deficit, insert chart showing democrats decrease more than republicans, and stock market gains, insert chart of better gains during Democrat administrations.
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Point still stands
 
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
It’s going to be like Knight when he claimed Trump was his perfect policy president then listed a bunch of polices that Trump doesn’t support or even worse does the exact opposite of. Just breakout the republican list of hits like, states right, nope, decreasing the deficit, insert chart showing democrats decrease more than republicans, and stock market gains, insert chart of better gains during Democrat administrations.
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Is that why he changed his name? Because that moment was so humiliating?
 
100% support Feinstein getting COVID, surviving, but using this opportunity to retire from public office.
 
TownieDeac said:
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And this is precisely why Congressional Democrats continue to have their lunch regularly eaten by their Republican colleagues. As was mentioned weeks ago, one problem Congressional Democrats have in being led by a gerontocracy is that most of the senior Democrats are from another political era (say, the 1980s), when there were still some pragmatic and more reasonable conservatives like a Howard Baker or Bob Dole that you could still cut deals with. Those days are long gone, but elderly Democrats like Feinstein don't have a clue.

ETA: I wonder if Lindsey will make a quick ad of that hug as showing that he can get along with his political opponents? It would just be wonderful knowing that Lindsey in his desperate fight to cling to his Senate seat got a boost from one of the Senate Democratic octogenarians that he so regularly calls terrorists and radical crazy thugs.
 
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Highland Deac said:
There is no question that the GOP base, as compared to the Democratic base, looks a great deal more like America generally looked fifty or a hundred years ago - heavily white, more rural, male-dominated, more devoutly conservative religious views, etc. Just look at the makeup of the current House of Representatives and see which party is far more diverse demographically. After the 2018 election the percentage of Republican women in the House actually dropped, while it rose to record numbers among House Democrats. It is also a fact that after Barrett is confirmed a majority of the Supreme Court will have been chosen by two presidents who were elected with a minority of the popular vote, and a third of the Court will have been chosen by a POTUS who lost the popular vote to his opponent by a record three million popular votes (no president has ever been elected after losing the popular vote by anything close to that margin.) Essentially, we have become a national society in which a majority of the people are being led by a shrinking minority of the population. If conservatives want to feel proud about that, then by all means go ahead, but they shouldn't expect their opponents to go along with it.
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Since when did getting elected POTUS become a vote of the popular vote? Never in U.S. history because we have the electoral college luckily and it keeps about 5 states total from controlling the other 45 states. That is also why we have 2 Senators per state, to balance out and give fair representation to each state. Our Founding Fathers thought this out well and it will never be changed!
 
TheReff said:
Since when did getting elected POTUS become a vote of the popular vote? Never in U.S. history because we have the electoral college luckily and it keeps about 5 states total from controlling the other 45 states. That is also why we have 2 Senators per state, to balance out and give fair representation to each state. Our Founding Fathers thought this out well and it will never be changed!
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Adhere to the Constitution? Quite old fashion of you.
 
I didn’t know we were choosing up sides.
My remark was not meant to be condescending at all. I like old fashion.
 
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