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2022 races (and 2021 for weird commonwealths like Virginia)

WokeandBroke said:
Are you serious? Step outside the bubble.

You shed 15 points in 12 months among suburban moms. Here's a hint: it's not because they re-discovered their racism after voting for your candidates in Fall of 2020.

The Administration refuses to admit it has a border crisis of its own making and is in the process of actively making it much worse (even if they forgot to tell the President what his policy is).

He admits he has no plan on fuel prices and we're in the midst of a supply chain crisis and the Secretary of Transportation is worried about the sizes of bridges built 50 years ago.

People watched the President promise that he wouldn't give away Afghanistan, and the most accurate prediction of his administration is precisely what he promised wouldn't happened. He's never been as right on anything as he was wrong on that (even to the modality of his failure).
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lol this shit is hilarious. I live in suburbia and the moms are all out in the street with their white wine riffing on Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal and his border policy and pining for Ted Cruz or Donald Trump to run again and save them!!!
 
WakeandBake said:
lol this shit is hilarious. I live in suburbia and the moms are all out in the street with their white wine riffing on Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal and his border policy and pining for Ted Cruz or Donald Trump to run again and save them!!!
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They're mad about the schools.
 
WokeandBroke said:
They're mad about the schools.
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No they aren't, because we have had mask mandates in place and have kept COVID outbreaks under control. 60% vax rate could be better, but my kids are in school and youth sports full time because we did the shit we were supposed to do and didn't act like fucking babies.

jh you are griping like the idiots that you and George Will never liked on the right. What the fuck man, I never agreed with you but you've been deep in the new GOP kool aid.
 
WakeandBake said:
No they aren't, because we have had mask mandates in place and have kept COVID outbreaks under control. 60% vax rate could be better, but my kids are in school and youth sports full time because we did the shit we were supposed to do and didn't act like fucking babies.

jh you are griping like the idiots that you and George Will never liked on the right. What the fuck man, I never agreed with you but you've been deep in the new GOP kool aid.
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Why did a decisive margin of those women abandon Biden in a year? What's your theory?
 
WokeandBroke said:
Why did a decisive margin of those women abandon Biden in a year? What's your theory?
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I'm sure there are other reasons, but I'll take a stab: Independent doesn't necessarily mean moderate. You could have been an Independent and liked Warren, Buttigieg, or maybe "anyone but Trump" if you lean Republican. The Dem primaries were very heated, and the only reason Biden won them was because people thought he had the best shot to win the presidency. I think those type of people would disapprove of what Biden is doing and think another Dem would be doing better. I think approval rating is a little different for Biden given how split his own party is.

If voters are mad about CRT, the supply chain issues, or inflation, then I'm not really sure what to tell you about those things that have next to nothing to do with the president of the United States.

The debacle in Afghanistan is honestly the only thing I really hold against him at this point, but at least we're out. I consider myself a moderate who has been pushed further left over the past 11 years (since the rise of the Tea Party).
 
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The notion of Afghanistan withdrawal being a unique debacle is just another example of repeating something enough that it becomes truthy sounding. Like “failing public schools” or “crime is skyrocketing” which just sound like they are right but not actually borne out in reality.

If it was a “debacle” the gop wouldn’t have dropped that talking point a week later.
 
WokeandBroke said:
Why did a decisive margin of those women abandon Biden in a year? What's your theory?
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not grabbing enough pussy, not making enough money off his position, not accusing everyone around him of cheating and being fake, not playing the victim card hard enough, not denying an active pandemic?
 
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Demonwolverine said:
I'm sure there are other reasons, but I'll take a stab: Independent doesn't necessarily mean moderate. You could have been an Independent and liked Warren, Buttigieg, or maybe "anyone but Trump" if you lean Republican. The Dem primaries were very heated, and the only reason Biden won them was because people thought he had the best shot to win the presidency. I think those type of people would disapprove of what Biden is doing and think another Dem would be doing better. I think approval rating is a little different for Biden given how split his own party is.

If voters are mad about CRT, the supply chain issues, or inflation, then I'm not really sure what to tell you about those things that have next to nothing to do with the president of the United States.

The debacle in Afghanistan is honestly the only thing I really hold against him at this point, but at least we're out. I consider myself a moderate who has been pushed further left over the past 11 years (since the rise of the Tea Party).
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You may be right that some of the dissatisfaction with Biden is coming from the left (certainly within his party), but who are the voters supposed to look to to help them with the kitchen table issues? The privileges enjoyed by regular posters of this board insulate them from the rises in crime and inflation, but there are people struggling with each. If not the President and/or the Congress, who? Part of the problem with being in control is owning the response even if you didn't cause the problem. What has the President's response been?
 
My understanding is that the fed is taking what they believe to be the best course of action to handle this inevitable inflation so that it isn't permanent. They warned us this was coming for years, and now they're just trying to manage it.

I have generally been a believer that the president gets too much credit when the economy is doing well, and too much blame when it is doing poorly. Surely there is a better economist on here than me to break it down though.
 
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Demonwolverine said:
My understanding is that the fed is taking what they believe to be the best course of action to handle this inevitable inflation so that it isn't permanent. They warned us this was coming for years, and now they're just trying to manage it.

I have generally been a believer that the president gets too much credit when the economy is doing well, and too much blame when it is doing poorly. Surely there is a better economist on here than me to break it down though.
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More here, please. Why do you describe this inflation as inevitable?
 
WokeandBroke said:
You may be right that some of the dissatisfaction with Biden is coming from the left (certainly within his party), but who are the voters supposed to look to to help them with the kitchen table issues? The privileges enjoyed by regular posters of this board insulate them from the rises in crime and inflation, but there are people struggling with each. If not the President and/or the Congress, who? Part of the problem with being in control is owning the response even if you didn't cause the problem. What has the President's response been?
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He went to Rome and spread a great deal of pollution with his enormous motorcade, then shit in his pants at the Vatican; he then headed for Scotland and fell asleep at a conference, farted long and loud at the Windsors, called on the American people and reporters to explain the supply chain, lied about planning preposterous pay-offs to illegals. In short, he more than fulfilled the exuberant expectations of his voters.
 
And here comes curly to spew some nonsense.
 
Just a reminder that when terms like “kitchen table issues” get thrown around by Republicans, they are referring to middle and upper middle class white rural voters. Not poor people, not working class minorities. Just white people in the country making 70k+ a year who think gas is more expensive because Sean Hannity said Joe Biden shut down a pipeline. It’s a specific set of kitchen tables that are being referenced.
 
WokeandBroke said:
You may be right that some of the dissatisfaction with Biden is coming from the left (certainly within his party), but who are the voters supposed to look to to help them with the kitchen table issues? The privileges enjoyed by regular posters of this board insulate them from the rises in crime and inflation, but there are people struggling with each. If not the President and/or the Congress, who? Part of the problem with being in control is owning the response even if you didn't cause the problem. What has the President's response been?
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This seems like a time for bootstraps if there ever was one.
 
WokeandBroke said:
More here, please. Why do you describe this inflation as inevitable?
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Because Donald trump wanted the fed to cut rates to nothing, then they had to anyway because he fucked up the covid response and in turn the economy.
 
WokeandBroke said:
More here, please. Why do you describe this inflation as inevitable?
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This is where jh has no ideas or theories and tries to get the poster to give an answer he can then parse to death to deflect that he has no answers and never has besides lower taxes and two-parent households.

hell, he couldn't even come up with a clever new board name and went with a low-thought own-the-libs take on mine.

no original ideas, no solutions, no guts
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Just a reminder that when terms like “kitchen table issues” get thrown around by Republicans, they are referring to middle and upper middle class white rural voters. Not poor people, not working class minorities. Just white people in the country making 70k+ a year who think gas is more expensive because Sean Hannity said Joe Biden shut down a pipeline. It’s a specific set of kitchen tables that are being referenced.
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Do poor people or working class minorities not care about gas prices or the cost of their groceries going up?

Do you think the poor family just says "aw shucks [insert name of president here] has no effect on gas prices so I'm not going to worry that it costs me 50% more to get to/from work than it did a year ago?"

You are right that for most middle class families it's manageable, which is why I find it puzzling that you think the same issues don't matter to poor families?
 
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