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2022 races (and 2021 for weird commonwealths like Virginia)

Liquid Karma said:
Do poor people or working class minorities not care about gas prices or the cost of their groceries going up?
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Sure they do, those people just don’t matter to Republicans because they don’t actively subscribe to the Republican propaganda on those topics blaming them on: socialism, undocumented immigrants, China, the gay agenda, college professors, activist judges, or runaway government spending.

You can theorize all day about why it is that a very specific group of Americans believe in the above, and why the rest of them don’t, but you can’t deny that it’s a very stark divide between who believes it and who doesn’t.
 
WokeandBroke said:
You may be right that some of the dissatisfaction with Biden is coming from the left (certainly within his party), but who are the voters supposed to look to to help them with the kitchen table issues? The privileges enjoyed by regular posters of this board insulate them from the rises in crime and inflation, but there are people struggling with each. If not the President and/or the Congress, who? Part of the problem with being in control is owning the response even if you didn't cause the problem. What has the President's response been?
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So, you think that is the job of the government now?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Sure they do, those people just don’t matter to Republicans because they don’t actively subscribe to the Republican propaganda on those topics blaming them on: socialism, undocumented immigrants, China, the gay agenda, college professors, activist judges, or runaway government spending.

You can theorize all day about why it is that a very specific group of Americans believe in the above, and why the rest of them don’t, but you can’t deny that it’s a very stark divide between who believes it and who doesn’t.
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Yep. Republicans would tell working class Black people complaining around a kitchen table to stop whining and get another job.
 
WokeandBroke said:
Why did a decisive margin of those women abandon Biden in a year? What's your theory?
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Because this has happened every 4 years, without fail, for the past 30+ years. The party opposite the president wins governor race in VA and NJ. (Except this year the dems won NJ.) For example, Republican Chris Christie won governor of NJ in 2013 by 22 points!

Why did Gavin Newsom get the same percent of the votes in the recall 2 months ago that he received in 2018?
 
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Liquid Karma said:
Do poor people or working class minorities not care about gas prices or the cost of their groceries going up?

Do you think the poor family just says "aw shucks [insert name of president here] has no effect on gas prices so I'm not going to worry that it costs me 50% more to get to/from work than it did a year ago?"

You are right that for most middle class families it's manageable, which is why I find it puzzling that you think the same issues don't matter to poor families?
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All good questions here.
 
BarcaDeac said:
The Let’s Go Brandon chant is very convincing
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I don't understand the point of that. If anything, it trolls the reporter/media. I don't see what impact Biden is supposed to feel from people not cussing at him. Yeah, he knows half the country doesn't like him. Welcome to elective office. And?
 
WokeandBroke said:
I don't understand the point of that. If anything, it trolls the reporter/media. I don't see what impact Biden is supposed to feel from people not cussing at him. Yeah, he knows half the country doesn't like him. Welcome to elective office. And?
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Personally I view it as a litmus test for the feeble minded among us and I'm grateful they so willingly participate.
 
Funnylistening to the 2 guys named Chris driving into work this morning. Some every man's on there complaining about inflation is due to the government paying people to stay-at-home instead of working and then they have a long discussion about it before somebody points out that those unemployment payments are no longer being made. Is pretty much a microcosm of Republican messaging.
 
ChrisL68 said:
Funnylistening to the 2 guys named Chris driving into work this morning. Some every man's on there complaining about inflation is due to the government paying people to stay-at-home instead of working and then they have a long discussion about it before somebody points out that those unemployment payments are no longer being made. Is pretty much a microcosm of Republican messaging.
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I'm pretty sure Sailor's comment about Biden farting is the core of Republican messaging. Though to be fair, lubes did offer a lot of comments about the size and shape of Donald Trump's penis and whether or not he urinated in front of (on?) Stormy Daniels.
 
ChrisL68 said:
Funnylistening to the 2 guys named Chris driving into work this morning. Some every man's on there complaining about inflation is due to the government paying people to stay-at-home instead of working and then they have a long discussion about it before somebody points out that those unemployment payments are no longer being made. Is pretty much a microcosm of Republican messaging.
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Inflation is a lagging indicator.
 
WokeandBroke said:
All good questions here.
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Being disingenuous isn’t an effective rhetorical tool on a political sub where the same 20 people have been posting for 10 years. The Republican Party is incredibly homogenous, and isn’t representative of the socioeconomic “working man” that you all like to fantasize it is, because statistically the American working class is poorer, racially diverse and lives in cities. Not white construction foremen with pontoon boats and 60 thousand dollar trucks. You conservatives love to complain about “virtue signaling”, when that’s exactly what all your “kitchen table issues” fear mongering propaganda is - empty gesturing to real working class people on behalf of hateful country middle class whites.
 
Don’t confuse local political effectiveness with being nationally representative. The Republican Party could completely control 40 states and still not be ideologically representative of the American majority
 
Alright now that I have fulfilled my court ordered weekly quota of posts complaining about Republicans I can return to my true passion of bitching about Democrats.
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myDeaconmyhand said:
Being disingenuous isn’t an effective rhetorical tool on a political sub where the same 20 people have been posting for 10 years. The Republican Party is incredibly homogenous, and isn’t representative of the socioeconomic “working man” that you all like to fantasize it is, because statistically the American working class is poorer, racially diverse and lives in cities. Not white construction foremen with pontoon boats and 60 thousand dollar trucks. You conservatives love to complain about “virtue signaling”, when that’s exactly what all your “kitchen table issues” fear mongering propaganda is - empty gesturing to real working class people on behalf of hateful country middle class whites.
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The CPI announced today is at 6.3%, the highest it's been in 30 years. How do your real working class people feel about that?

Is it virtue signaling to care that inflation is running rampant and affects us all? Or do you conveniently ignore it because it doesn't fit your world view that the only people out there who ever have anything to be aggrieved about are the "real working class" people you champion?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Alright now that I have fulfilled my court ordered weekly quota of posts complaining about Republicans I can return to my true passion of bitching about Democrats.
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LOL, I have to give it to you, you are unique here in your hatred of both parties. Respect.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Being disingenuous isn’t an effective rhetorical tool on a political sub where the same 20 people have been posting for 10 years. The Republican Party is incredibly homogenous, and isn’t representative of the socioeconomic “working man” that you all like to fantasize it is, because statistically the American working class is poorer, racially diverse and lives in cities. Not white construction foremen with pontoon boats and 60 thousand dollar trucks. You conservatives love to complain about “virtue signaling”, when that’s exactly what all your “kitchen table issues” fear mongering propaganda is - empty gesturing to real working class people on behalf of hateful country middle class whites.
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IDK, 80 something million voters doesn't capture all that you seem to think it does. You used to be kinda right about that, but Dems punted the poor working class and Trump picked them up. Discussed many times.
 
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