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Updates to the Joel?

There were some redesign mockups of the Joel posted on these here boards a year or so ago. Anyone memberry it?
 
BarcaDeac said:
Those renderings for that and their football stadium are hilarious because they always have these giant boats depicted on Waco’s piece of shit little river
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I went to one football game at Baylor and the boats "sailgating" was pretty cool, actually.
 
I actually like the Joel despite any inherent bias. At least it’s original. Went to UNC, Duke and State games within the last two years when Wake played there and those stadiums aren’t exactly stellar (Duke’s is not impressive to me at all and State’s is as generic as they come). Went to @ UVA when we beat them this year and that’s the most impressive stadium I’ve been in for an ACC game. Also do a good amount of work with Wofford and they have a killer stadium. If we can model after either venue, all Deac fans would be happy, IMHO.

Think we can do some renovations and make the Joel feel ‘new’ without tearing it down. What would be ideal is if we could somehow redirect University Parkway north of Deacon Blvd. and tear down that shitty hotel and car dealership and make an awesome walking path to the Joel and Groves…I recognize this is not realistic.
 
SkyDivingDeacon said:
I actually like the Joel despite any inherent bias. At least it’s original. Went to UNC, Duke and State games within the last two years when Wake played there and those stadiums aren’t exactly stellar (Duke’s is not impressive to me at all and State’s is as generic as they come). Went to @ UVA when we beat them this year and that’s the most impressive stadium I’ve been in for an ACC game. Also do a good amount of work with Wofford and they have a killer stadium. If we can model after either venue, all Deac fans would be happy, IMHO.

Think we can do some renovations and make the Joel feel ‘new’ without tearing it down. What would be ideal is if we could somehow redirect University Parkway north of Deacon Blvd. and tear down that shitty hotel and car dealership and make an awesome walking path to the Joel and Groves…I recognize this is not realistic.
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ETA: Sorry, it’s been three years since visiting all of those places, not two
 
Just waiting now...

My GAWD that is DonaldRoss' music!!
 
The Joel is a fossil, just like 3/4 of the people you see on tv in attendance. An update is much needed and welcomed. Regardless of if we have a packed house, it’s still a very outdated place
 
The floor is a problem that can easily be fixed for next season. I hope they at least take care of that over the summer.

I would prefer to see the Joel knocked down and replaced with a smaller stadium one the same lot.

I wish Wake would partner with the city and build a proper veterans memorial park closer to downtown.
 
Ball State Deac said:
Wait. Now everyone is on the same page that the Joel sucks?
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There's a big difference saying this in year 33 of the Joel than before it was even 10 years old.
 
Really hard to compare the cost of construction projects right now because the cost of materials is inflated so much. The Baylor and JMU buildings would probably cost 20% more if they were started right now
 
Also, 8,500 seats is too small. We're a P5 school, for crying out loud. I'd aim for 10K-12K seats.
 
inspectah said:
Also, 8,500 seats is too small. We're a P5 school, for crying out loud. I'd aim for 10K-12K seats.
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Why build capacity for 3-4 games a year? Even when we've been great and our attendance numbers would support that many seats, there have been a large number of opposing fans in the stadium. The heavily inflated attendance numbers barely have us averaging that many in good years.

We're a P5 school, sure...the smallest by far.
 
I’m not saying it’s not the right idea, but contracting the size of the Wake Forest’s basketball arena would just cement Winston-Salem’s status as a backwater town. W-S would go from having maybe the 5th largest indoor arena in NC to like 20th.
 
BiffTannen said:
I’m not saying it’s not the right idea, but contracting the size of the Wake Forest’s basketball arena would just cement Winston-Salem’s status as a backwater town. W-S would go from having maybe the 5th largest indoor arena in NC to like 20th.
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Let the city build itself a proper monster truck venue.
 
Well, yeah, that's a good point. Maybe it's ok to leave the monster trucks to Greensboro.
 
Alright time to gut it and rebuild. The Mit has a nice ring to it.
 
I’d rather put $50M into it and keep the other $50M on hand for NIL deals for a few years.
 
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