Hire that lady from LSU.
Again, Wellman announced Hoover’s hire on May 9, 2012. I don’t think it’s coincidence that her firing was announced almost 10 years to the day.
Also again, players can go into the portal until July 1 after a coaching change. So if a coach wants to bring their players, they can.
Don't agree that the timing was good. The timing is the only negative aspect of the move. Smart to move on, but in addition to losing other potential candidates to jobs that have been filled, the new coach lost any shot to bring in her/his recruits for the Class of 22 transfer portal candidates, and the recruiting for the Class of 23 is well underway. While WF always gives plenty of time for its coaches to build the program, the new coach will be behind every other coach in the country when it comes to recruiting, building a staff and building a rapport with whomever stays. Also, while WF did the right thing to extend the portal option for existing players and incoming recruits, those players and recruits are largely hosed. There are very few open roster spots, particularly among the most attractive programs.
This move was not envisioned when the season ended. Something (or a combination of things) happened between March and May that triggered this. Guessing among the factors:
- The loss of the assistant coaches
- The exit interviews with the players
- The recruiting (or lack of recruiting) for the HS of 23
- Maybe even negotiations that would have made it easier to dump Hoover after next season
Pilch, Hoover's original contract started 10 years ago. Hoover signed a contract extension last June. It's quite possible it's easier to fire her after a contract year ends.
Explain to me why you don't think that's straightforward logic.
John Currie just sent a signal to all Deacon fans that he has high expectations of each of our programs and expects to compete at the highest level. Currie doesn’t buy into LOWF. Timing might seem bad to us but I’m sure he has a plan.
Wake women’s basketball was by far our worst performing program and while Jen was a great alum, fan and cheerleader the results are not there. They were at Wake at the same time…I’m sure this was tough for him but he believes Wake can win in anything.
I’ve been around him enough to know he won’t settle.
People here acting like they have no patience for a WBB rebuild, while we hope Forbes delivers an NCAA bid in year 3
If Hoover's contract ended, then it's not a firing. Her contract was not renewed. If it saved WF some money by waiting until the end of her deal, then, that makes sense from a money perspective.
All of that said, from a pure competitive standpoint, this is not the optimum time to search for a coach, bring in a staff and build a roster, WF women's basketball will be behind other programs. That's undeniable. People were freaking about the men's basketball roster in mid-April when we hadn't landed our transfer class, and it was unclear who was returning. The women's basketball program is months behind that timeline. So, yes, WF women's hoop will be at a further competitive disadvantage for next year, and for working HS recruits in the Class of 2023.
Also, regardless if the portal window is extended because of the move; the timing does suck for the current players and recruits because there aren't many open roster spots right now around the country. Transferring is a game of musical chairs, and almost all of the chairs are full right now. So, the players and recruits would have been in a better position with a March decision. Maybe because WF women's hoop has been bad for so long, the athletic department was willing to punt a season or two and didn't care enough about the options of the current players and recruits to save some money. It's OK to support the move, but acknowledge that the timing was not perfect.
I think the point is that on the anniversary of a contract the buy out clauses likely get reduced, so even if the decision to let her go was made weeks ago, it might have saved the AD a pile of money to wait until after May 9th 2022.
100% agree. Money considerations took precedence over competitive considerations.
100% agree. Money considerations took precedence over competitive considerations.
It's sad that none of those comments are surprising to me. We had an entire group on FB (probably the same people commenting in this instance as well) that during the [Redacted] era were fine with the losing so long as the players were nice and didn't cause a scene. They are content to sit back and collect the ACC revenues and toasting each other in the club areas at WF sporting events.
If Hoover's contract ended, then it's not a firing. Her contract was not renewed. If it saved WF some money by waiting until the end of her deal, then, that makes sense from a money perspective.
All of that said, from a pure competitive standpoint, this is not the optimum time to search for a coach, bring in a staff and build a roster, WF women's basketball will be behind other programs. That's undeniable. People were freaking about the men's basketball roster in mid-April when we hadn't landed our transfer class, and it was unclear who was returning. The women's basketball program is months behind that timeline. So, yes, WF women's hoop will be at a further competitive disadvantage for next year, and for working HS recruits in the Class of 2023.
Also, regardless if the portal window is extended because of the move; the timing does suck for the current players and recruits because there aren't many open roster spots right now around the country. Transferring is a game of musical chairs, and almost all of the chairs are full right now. So, the players and recruits would have been in a better position with a March decision. Maybe because WF women's hoop has been bad for so long, the athletic department was willing to punt a season or two and didn't care enough about the options of the current players and recruits to save some money. It's OK to support the move, but acknowledge that the timing was not perfect.