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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

Pilchard said:
The ACC needs to find revenue source to make that plan work.
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The revenue source would be getting ND on board and telling ESPN to renegotiate our contract or we're out.
 
it would seem that ND would have about 50 million reasons (annually) to join the B1G before it joined the ACC

and it seems we're waiting to see who is the first school in the ACC to challenge the grant of rights deal or swallow the loss
 
PhDeac said:
No. The Big Ten already poached Maryland and it was rumored they approached UNC. The ACC makes more geographic sense. They are raiding the PAC-12 because they couldn’t break the ACC.

The ACC needs to get ND. That’s a no-brainer. Get the numbers together and then go get #16.

Bringing Maryland back to the ACC should be the first move.
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When could Maryland make that move?
 
wakesquirrel said:
Wake certainly isn’t included in this. ACC needs to get ND, Stanford, and Oregon
https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1542571832783638529?s=10&t=FnDs1s-6pCGWecwM0oAUVQ
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If the Big 10 becomes the big 20, there is no way that both Northwestern and Rutgers stay.
I would put more than half of the ACC teams ahead NW and Rutgers. Some ACC teams might be poached to the SEC20, but unless you are a big name school, you ain't staying in your conference.
you think Vanderbilt or Kentucky stay in the SEC20 if FSU/Miami/UNC/VaTech are available?
 
BiffTannen said:
Even getting ND on board wouldn't be enough to save this conference.
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Think you have already made the same point (over and over). Perhaps, you feel like no one pays attention to you. Must suck.
 
DeacOnCapeCod said:
If the Big 10 becomes the big 20, there is no way that both Northwestern and Rutgers stay.
I would put more than half of the ACC teams ahead NW and Rutgers. Some ACC teams might be poached to the SEC20, but unless you are a big name school, you ain't staying in your conference.
you think Vanderbilt or Kentucky stay in the SEC20 if FSU/Miami/UNC/VaTech are available?
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Conferences almost never expel members. The last time I'm aware of that happening was Temple from the Big East more than 20 years ago. Bama and UGA need opponents that they can always beat. Don't see conferences expelling schools, but this is weird time; so, you never know.
 
Pilchard said:
Think you have already made the same point (over and over). Perhaps, you feel like no one pays attention to you. Must suck.
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While others of you have put together fantasy scenarios where the ACC somehow triples revenue and stays relevant.
 
DeacOnCapeCod said:
If the Big 10 becomes the big 20, there is no way that both Northwestern and Rutgers stay.
I would put more than half of the ACC teams ahead NW and Rutgers. Some ACC teams might be poached to the SEC20, but unless you are a big name school, you ain't staying in your conference.
you think Vanderbilt or Kentucky stay in the SEC20 if FSU/Miami/UNC/VaTech are available?
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I don't think the B1G/SEC have an easy way of kicking teams out of their conference (the B1G could potentially kick Nebraska out, since they were kicked out of the academic consortium, but they won't do that)

Much harder to kick Vandy out than to simply deny WF admission. UK's stadium is bigger, by far, than UNC and VT, and I would imagine their football attendance over the last 10 years dwarfs every ACC school's except for Clemson.
 
Is there a risk that some of these mega conferences get so big that even with a bigger pie, the slices are smaller?
 
Pilchard said:
Conferences almost never expel members. The last time I'm aware of that happening was Temple from the Big East more than 20 years ago. Bama and UGA need opponents that they can always beat. Don't see conferences expelling schools, but this is weird time; so, you never know.
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It is a weird time. But throw the schools enough cash and they will go away.
So UCLA/USC makes big 10 soon to be 16.
So SEC and Big10 poach a total of 8 ACC schools?
no particular order but
* Clemson
*FSU
*Miami
*UNC
*NC State
*UVA
*VaTech
who knows who the 8th would be.... (take your pick from the rest).
I would think that any of these remaining 6 would be better than Vandy/UK/NW/Rutgers

Always thought the make number would be 64 total teams, divided into 4 conferences of 16, but looks like they are going to limit the party to 40.
 
thatguy2016 said:
I don't think the B1G/SEC have an easy way of kicking teams out of their conference (the B1G could potentially kick Nebraska out, since they were kicked out of the academic consortium, but they won't do that)

Much harder to kick Vandy out than to simply deny WF admission. UK's stadium is bigger, by far, than UNC and VT, and I would imagine their football attendance over the last 10 years dwarfs every ACC school's except for Clemson.
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VT's stadium is bigger than Kentucky's and Kentucky doesn't draw that well, even when the big schools tome to town.
 
DeacOnCapeCod said:
It is a weird time. But throw the schools enough cash and they will go away.
So UCLA/USC makes big 10 soon to be 16.
So SEC and Big10 poach a total of 8 ACC schools?
no particular order but
* Clemson
*FSU
*Miami
*UNC
*NC State
*UVA
*VaTech
who knows who the 8th would be.... (take your pick from the rest).
I would think that any of these remaining 6 would be better than Vandy/UK/NW/Rutgers

Always thought the make number would be 64 total teams, divided into 4 conferences of 16, but looks like they are going to limit the party to 40.
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Duke will be a package deal with UNC. Same way USC/UCLA and OU/Texas were
 
thatguy2016 said:
I don't think the B1G/SEC have an easy way of kicking teams out of their conference (the B1G could potentially kick Nebraska out, since they were kicked out of the academic consortium, but they won't do that)

Much harder to kick Vandy out than to simply deny WF admission. UK's stadium is bigger, by far, than UNC and VT, and I would imagine their football attendance over the last 10 years dwarfs every ACC school's except for Clemson.
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No one gets kicked out if the conference dissolves. Lose to many members and bam, everyone else is looking for a new home.
 
BiffTannen said:
VT's stadium is bigger than Kentucky's and Kentucky doesn't draw that well, even when the big schools tome to town.
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I stand corrected re: stadium size, but UK drew 60,800+ to its 4 conference games last year, while VT drew 60,600+ to its 3 ACC games not involving Duke, and 56,000 to Duke
 
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