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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

TimmyClutch said:
ACC and PAC12 might though.
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we agree. The original comment to which I responded was that the B1G and SEC could kick out NW, Rutgers, Vandy, UK, etc. Those schools are not at risk. WF and Baylor, and Oregon St, and other schools in the ACC/PAC/BXII are at risk.
 
Wake, ECU, Charlotte, JMU, BC, Syracuse, UConn, Liberty, WVU, etc
 
So then is it possible, instead of kicking teams out of conferences, that the top teams will eventually leave their conferences to form what would essentially be a college football only super league?
 
Say the Pac12 cant stop this, so they go ok, we will add Boise, Fresno, San Diego State and UNLV. That doesn't move the needle at all and doesn't bring in any new markets. So instead the Pac12 is gonna go fishing and see what they can find. Big 12 may be desperate enough to join with the Pac and form a super conference, and thats when the arms race starts up.
 
thatguy2016 said:
we agree. The original comment to which I responded was that the B1G and SEC could kick out NW, Rutgers, Vandy, UK, etc. Those schools are not at risk. WF and Baylor, and Oregon St, and other schools in the ACC/PAC/BXII are at risk.
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Unless the SEC and the Big10 dissolve as well, and then all bets are off. If both conferences get to 20 teams, I could easily see a rebranding of the conference, and a name change would be a good start. Plus, a new conference would be new rules about dividing the pie....
 
TimmyClutch said:
Say the Pac12 cant stop this, so they go ok, we will add Boise, Fresno, San Diego State and UNLV. That doesn't move the needle at all and doesn't bring in any new markets. So instead the Pac12 is gonna go fishing and see what they can find. Big 12 may be desperate enough to join with the Pac and form a super conference, and thats when the arms race starts up.
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Big 12/Pac 12 talks to merge seem likely. The problem is that the marquee schools in the biggest states for that merged conference will be in the SEC (Texas and Texas A&M) and the Big 10 (USC and UCLA). So, even a merged Pac 12/Big 12 conference will still be far behind the SEC and the Big 10 in being able to negotiate media rights. Oregon would be the flagship program in that conference, and not even sure who is next. OK State? That really is a bunch of leftover schools.
 
 
Say Hey Deac said:
All of this just makes me not as interested in college sports.
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at some point, this is going to affect viewership, IMO. there are alot of people who like college sports who won't be nearly as interested in some split off super college minor league semi-pro league.
 
ChrisL68 said:
at some point, this is going to affect viewership, IMO. there are alot of people who like college sports who won't be nearly as interested in some split off super college minor league semi-pro league.
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Pilchard said:
Big 12/Pac 12 talks to merge seem likely. The problem is that the marquee schools in the biggest states for that merged conference will be in the SEC (Texas and Texas A&M) and the Big 10 (USC and UCLA). So, even a merged Pac 12/Big 12 conference will still be far behind the SEC and the Big 10 in being able to negotiate media rights. Oregon would be the flagship program in that conference, and not even sure who is next. OK State? That really is a bunch of leftover schools.
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If the Big XII didn't panic buy Houston, Cincy, UCF, and BYU, they could invite the Pac-12 into a nice handy 18 team conference. Now they're stuck with extra baggage.

 
BiffTannen said:
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I mean, it probably won't decrease the viewership of games between the teams that make it into the superleagues. But it will decrease overall viewership of college sports simply by function of there being a lot fewer meaningful games between a lot fewer teams.

I love Wake Forest football. But if Wake is in a conference with ECU and Elon 10 years from now, I don't foresee myself planning my Saturdays around watching the games like I do currently. And as a result, I probably won't plan my Saturdays around watching college football at all.
 
You need fans of all of those schools to watch these postseason tournaments to keep up viewership levels. How are you going to retain national viewership levels for regional power conferences that fans of schools no longer have any connection with?

I can watch pro sports with better athletes.
 
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Who can the ACC realistically go after? I assume the B12 leftovers are the only choice? OK State, K State, WVU? None of those are going to move the needle like UT or OU, but is there any other options?
 
ChrisL68 said:
You need fans of all of those schools to watch these postseason tournaments to keep up viewership levels. How are you going to retain national viewership levels for regional power conferences that fans of schools no longer have any connection with?
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Are you talking about basketball ? WGAF about basketball ? I'm pretty sure that B1G and SEC superconferences would be pretty good at basketball anyway.

I can watch pro sports with better athletes.
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You say that like someone who never watched a Wake/Duke football game in the 90's.
 
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skinnydeac said:
Who can the ACC realistically go after? I assume the B12 leftovers are the only choice? OK State, K State, WVU? None of those are going to move the needle like UT or OU, but is there any other options?
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Kansas is still there, for now. did you hear that KU beat Texas in football last year ?

We've already got Army on the schedule for the next 100 years.
 
Rutgers would stay potentially because NJ is what top 10 in state size and they in theory give you "eyes". Same way Cuse in theory gave us NY. it's not about who the fans are or wins or losses. It's about $$ and viewing rights.
 
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