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Hartman out indefinitely

So if Griffis struggles, it's going to be better for Lambert's #1 ranked defense. Gotcha.

Pilch is merely pointing out that we don't play complementary football. Our high tempo offense leaves our D hanging. He's not wrong. Since Griffis is not Hartman and we won't be able to win the 78-73 shootouts, maybe we play a more conventional offense for a while to protect the defense until Hartman returns
 
#1 in points allowed? yardage allowed? RZ TDs allowed? :)

I'm joking of course, I feel the D will actually show a bit of a backbone this year.

Number 1 in points allowed.

That's the only defensive stat that "truly matters" - imo.

The key to achieving this goal is whether we allow meaningless 4th quarter scores to VMI, Vandy, Liberty...
 
We have the talent, experience, and hopefully the speed at safety to do it. Don't let them score - period.

Lambert just needs to repeat:

I don't want them to gain another yard.

You blitz ALL NIGHT.

If they cross the line of scrimmage, I am going to take every last one of you out.
 
Pilch is merely pointing out that we don't play complementary football. Our high tempo offense leaves our D hanging. He's not wrong. Since Griffis is not Hartman and we won't be able to win the 78-73 shootouts, maybe we play a more conventional offense for a while to protect the defense until Hartman returns

to me, it felt like our "bend but don't break strategy" was a poor fit with our high-speed offense since it by design leaves your defense on the field longer (exacerbated by our poor depth)
 
to me, it felt like our "bend but don't break strategy" was a poor fit with our high-speed offense since it by design leaves your defense on the field longer (exacerbated by our poor depth)

I agree with this for the most part.

The biggest thing I'm looking for from this defense is getting off the field on third down. I understand that they face more plays than the average team, but I lose a little sympathy when you give up multiple 3rd and longs on the same drive. At that point, you aren't tired because of the offense. You are tired because busted coverages and poor tackling kept you on the field.
 
I agree with this for the most part.

The biggest thing I'm looking for from this defense is getting off the field on third down. I understand that they face more plays than the average team, but I lose a little sympathy when you give up multiple 3rd and longs on the same drive. At that point, you aren't tired because of the offense. You are tired because busted coverages and poor tackling kept you on the field.

Exactly. And that’s why the woe is me excuses for the defense are ridiculous. Yeah the defense will give up more possessions but they don’t have to give up more plays per possession.
 
Exactly. And that’s why the woe is me excuses for the defense are ridiculous. Yeah the defense will give up more possessions but they don’t have to give up more plays per possession.

Particularly early in games. In the first quarter, the "we've been on the field too long" is on the D. The guys are fresh. Get the three and out. Play the next series with an additional 7 points from the Wake O. Repeat.
 
How hard can it be to go from 111th against the run to 60 or so. NC State was 22. People bitch about the secondary. We couldn't stop the rush for shit last year. Just awful.
 
This is where most of my optimism for the D comes this year. Our run defense was atrocious, not because we were being outplayed, but because we were misaligned, hitting the wrong holes, and were scheming ourselves out of plays.

Just fixing our downhill angles alone would drastically improve our run defense.
 
It seems like, going back to the JR Sweezy days or so, our O-linemen talked about how STRONG the NC State D-linemen were and still are (?).

Interior 4-3 defensive tackles getting a push to stop the run.

Of course, we keep ruining dream seasons for them, so...
 
This is where most of my optimism for the D comes this year. Our run defense was atrocious, not because we were being outplayed, but because we were misaligned, hitting the wrong holes, and were scheming ourselves out of plays.

Just fixing our downhill angles alone would drastically improve our run defense.

100%

I've said on here before that I think the individual talent was better than the result. This is why Wake has a new DC and the old one has been demoted to safeties coach at an inferior program. Everybody could see what was going on. If you go back and watch the first half of the Rutgers game, watching them convert 3rd and longs with zero blitz was mind boggling. A decent team might have scored 30.
 
Pilch is merely pointing out that we don't play complementary football. Our high tempo offense leaves our D hanging. He's not wrong. Since Griffis is not Hartman and we won't be able to win the 78-73 shootouts, maybe we play a more conventional offense for a while to protect the defense until Hartman returns

last year's game at Clemson being a prime example of this - you can't start each half with multiple empty, short possessions, including two gift turnovers, and expect the D to be stout in the 4th quarter.
 
It not even simple "we needed to blitz more." It was basic assignments. There were numerous times The LB and S covered the same gap on run plays, with the S aggressively coming downhill. So, many times, when the play went A gap, it seemed the only player covering the gap was a DL and when the DL who had that responsibility was beat, double teamed, or trapped, a run up the middle sprang for 15+ yards b/c both the LB and S both aggressively plugged the B and/or C gap. Either that was a gross misunderstanding of assignment/role by the players or the scheme took them out of position. Basically, the way everything was schemed, if we didn't have 100% decision making AND execution, we got gutted for a big gain. There was way too little margin for error from the get go with play design for our defense to be successful, ESPECIALLY with the # of plays they were expected to play. I think it had less to do with tiredness (although that is a factor) as more plays = more times for something to go wrong. And when it went wrong, it went horribly wrong.

This is also why the hallmark of our defense the last few years was to get 2-3 stops, let up a big play, and then make a few more stops/fall apart. There is just too much going on/too many moving parts/too many breakdown points in the scheme.

Cam had a decent post a while back about some of our defensive philosophy and how it compounded our issues - couldn't find it on a search.
 
It not even simple "we needed to blitz more." It was basic assignments. There were numerous times The LB and S covered the same gap on run plays, with the S aggressively coming downhill. So, many times, when the play went A gap, it seemed the only player covering the gap was a DL and when the DL who had that responsibility was beat, double teamed, or trapped, a run up the middle sprang for 15+ yards b/c both the LB and S both aggressively plugged the B and/or C gap. Either that was a gross misunderstanding of assignment/role by the players or the scheme took them out of position. Basically, the way everything was schemed, if we didn't have 100% decision making AND execution, we got gutted for a big gain. There was way too little margin for error from the get go with play design for our defense to be successful, ESPECIALLY with the # of plays they were expected to play. I think it had less to do with tiredness (although that is a factor) as more plays = more times for something to go wrong. And when it went wrong, it went horribly wrong.

This is also why the hallmark of our defense the last few years was to get 2-3 stops, let up a big play, and then make a few more stops/fall apart. There is just too much going on/too many moving parts/too many breakdown points in the scheme.

Cam had a decent post a while back about some of our defensive philosophy and how it compounded our issues - couldn't find it on a search.

Well said.
 
We have the talent, experience, and hopefully the speed at safety to do it. Don't let them score - period.

Lambert just needs to repeat:

I don't want them to gain another yard.

You blitz ALL NIGHT.

If they cross the line of scrimmage, I am going to take every last one of you out.

Remember the Titans
 
This idea our defense gets tired is true enough. But we got gashed by the run game from start to finish. I get it in the fourth quarter. It was all game long.
 
This idea our defense gets tired is true enough. But we got gashed by the run game from start to finish. I get it in the fourth quarter. It was all game long.

yeah, that was my point. Tiredness is a factor, but our scheme did not set them up to succeed. It was feast or famine, not even so much bend don't break.
 
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