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State of the Buzz, Preseason

Do you approve of the job Jeff [Redacted] is doing as Head Coach?

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RJKarl said:
12/13 will determine whether [Redacted] is back for 13/14.

The biggest question is who replaces Battle after next year if he leaves.
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He will have to do something to earn a contract extension (since a coach with less than a year on his contract can't recruit effectively), but I don't think it will have to be much.
 
My best hope is that the guy just resigns after another dismal season. Let him abandon the sinking ship. Would fit his MO as a completely self-absorbed jerk.
 
What in his history of comments of passing the buck and pushing his teams' failings onto his players suggests that he isn't a self-absorbed jerk?

Enlighten me. Please.


Or, would you rather focus on how he lied to Air Force cadets about how he "wasn't decided" if he was going to take the Colorado job, to throwing out the first pitch at a Rockies game as the new Colorado Men's Basketball Coach within a matter of hours instead?


The guy is a grade-A jerk that does little to serve anybody but himself. The proof is there for all to see. I guess it is up to each person if they want to actually acknowledge what is there or not.
 
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TBR said:
He will have to do something to earn a contract extension (since a coach with less than a year on his contract can't recruit effectively), but I don't think it will have to be much.
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Dino didn't. Bz won't either.
 
I think RW, Grobe and Bzzz should all be fired right now. Hell why not all of the other coaches too. Vidovich didnt even make the tourney last year...can his ass!!!
 
"I think he's deserving of it," Wellman said. "His first two years were, I think, symbolic of what he can do for our program and with our program. He's done a good job in all phases of the program. If you look at the academic performance of our team, the athletic performance of our team, the recruitment, then he's done a good job in all areas.

"I just felt that he needed that security of an extension of the contract. We've been working on it this summer quite a bit, and I'm pleased we came to an agreement."


Ouch, Ron. All phases? Including the culture?


Remember this would be after the Miami allegations of sexual assault came to the attention of the University, and Mr. Ron Wellman.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
I think RW, Grobe and Bzzz should all be fired right now. Hell why not all of the other coaches too. Vidovich didnt even make the tourney last year...can his ass!!!
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Suppose you were to construct a list of Wake's sports in order of importance. I reckon you'd have to go all the way down to about #7 to find a coach with a worse career record than [Redacted].
 
Deacsfan27 said:
I think RW, Grobe and Bzzz should all be fired right now. Hell why not all of the other coaches too. Vidovich didnt even make the tourney last year...can his ass!!!
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Constructive use of hyperbolic nonsense. Well done, doofus.
 
Lol im obviously kidding. No sense in fretting over things that we have no control over. We will find out in a few years whether it works out or not...shrug.
 
Why don't you address the insulting double talk from Ron Wellman, instead of just saying "fuck it, what can I do?"

October 15, 2009 Ron Wellman said:

"We certainly talked about postseason and the importance of it and how that has evolved into the most important part of the season, and the regular season has been diminished somewhat over the last decade or so," Wellman said. "Dino has good thoughts about how we need to improve in that area, and obviously that has been a weakness the last couple of years.
"But it wasn't such a concern that I didn't want to go forward with the commitment to him because, again, overall I just feel he has done a superb job in a very difficult situation. And I see a very bright future for our program with him at the helm."


Then after the same season in which Ron Wellman said those words and Wake Forest went the furthest they did under Dino Gaudio's reign as the men's basketball coach here he said this...

On April 7, 2010 (not even a full 26 weeks later *one day short of that mark, in fact*) after Wake Forest reached the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament, after previously crashing out of the same tournament in the 1st round the previous season, and not even making it the season before that...
Ron Wellman had this to say about why he was letting Dino Gaudio go http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5064441 :

During a hastily drawn news conference, athletic director Ron Wellman said "the basis for the decision was our late-season and postseason performances."

He continued:
"This was not a snap decision. It was not a snap judgment," said Wellman, who served on the NCAA Division I men's basketball committee this season and was in Indianapolis earlier this week for the Final Four.
"This was not a decision based upon a one-year performance," he added. "We can put up with a disappointment. We have disappointments all the time. But there is a pattern here that needed to be addressed, a 3-year pattern that needed to be addressed."


Ron Wellman then proceeds to hire somebody with this career late season and post season record:

2005/06 Air Force: Loss to 12-17 Wyoming in the First Round of the WAC Conference Tournament. Loss to Illinois in the First Round of the NCAA Tournament.
2006/07 Air Force: 3 losses to close the regular season to UNLV, TCU (11-15 at time of game, coming off 11 straight losses *I guess they were "due"), and BYU. Air Force then lost in the First Round of the WAC Conference Tournament AGAIN to Wyoming (16-14), and their end of the season was so bad to knock them out of a NCAA Tournament berth.
2007/08 Colorado: Lost 14 of the final 16 games of the season. Won a first round matchup in the Big XII tournament tho.
2008/09 Colorado: From the turn of the calender year into 2009 Colorado lost 17 of 19 games, including the final 12. Needless to say, they did not win a post season game.
2009/10 Colorado: From the turn of the calender year into 2010 Colorado lost 12 of 19 games, including a first round loss in the Big XII Tournament this year.


So I wonder how the decision to let Gaudio go because of "the basis for the decision was our late-season and postseason performances", led to the hiring of Jeff [Redacted] when he produced such results.

Maybe, just maybe, Ron Wellman has been attempting to spoon feed up complete bullshit?
 
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Very simply put, RW has solved the "postseason performances" issues by averting any hope of the postseason entirely. :tear:
 
Strickland33 said:
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Nebraska, on paper, resembles our team a bit, so I may have to disagree with you there. Toney McCray is very similar to Travis and I have a hunch that he's their breakout player this year. I don't see any of their freshman having a significant impact early on and Jorge Diaz and Brandon Ubel, while big, are kind of soft. So, while they're probably better than us, they're not that much better.

While I do think Nebraska is good, I think Fairfield is going to give us trouble in terms of their frontcourt. Ryan Olander is very solid and word on the street is that he's gotten much better. He's also 7'0, as is freshman Vincent Van Nes (a former Bzz target). Also, ACC fans may remember Rakim Sanders from his days at BC and Derek Needham is considered one of the better scoring guards outside of the BCS.

Other teams I'm kind of worried about (in addition to, you know, all of them, Ferrum included) are Yale and Richmond. Both teams are scrappy on the perimeter with size in the middle.

Unlike most, I think we'll be fine against Loyola (big guys are both awful), Georgia Southern, Wofford (Noah Dalman graduated), High Point, Garner Webb, UNCW, and NC Central. So, that gives us seven wins.

I think we should have a good chance against Dayton, Richmond, Nebraska, and Yale. If I had to bet I say that we probably win two of those games. That's nine wins.

I think that either Arizona State (especially if Jahii Carson is eligible) or Fairfield is going to be a tough out, though not impossible, and that, should we win, DePaul, ISU, Texas Tech, and/or Minnesota is actually a far more winnable game.

In the ACC, we got really lucky. We play Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Boston College twice a piece and those six games are winnable. I'd say that we, at least split each series. That's 12 wins.

Then, we're lucky enough to play the next tier (Virginia Tech, Virginia, and Miami) five games, of which I would hope we could get a win or two. Let's say two. That brings us to 14 wins.

Sadly, I think we are systematically dismantled by the upper crust for any number of reasons and of five games against Duke, UNC, FSU, and Maryland, I really cannot see us winning anything...

That being said and I think this is a kind of best case scenario, we have a shot to win between 14-15 games if everything goes well.

It is a testimony to how far we've fallen that this the case, but damn. How far we've fallen...
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Wofford lost five of their top six players to graduation. The only guy they return who played a bunch of minutes is a little point guard (Loesing?). From watching them in the SoCon, I'm sure they'll continue to play tough man-to-man defense.

Georgia Southern has been atrocious for some time now.
 
hopefully we won't lose our exhibition on Friday...

I'm Buzz-in, the recruiting brought me around (naive optimism) and I am curious to see offseason growth and production from our boys, however, I'm sure losses will quickly push me back into Buzz-waiting culminating in Buzz-out
 
I fail to see how anybody can be "Buzz-In" at this juncture. I'm sure many think I am, but only the completely blind faithful would back what he has done so far in his career.
 
Of the 37 Buzz-In's, I've only seen like 10 ever post. Lurkers like Bzz.
 
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