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TexasDeac1 said:
While it sounds good, actually I thought it was just coachspeak. When questioned about individual plays ( like Les asking about passing on 3rd and 2) Clawson staunchly defends his coaching decisions and blames player execution.
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I tend to disagree. I think it was more of the complacency that the offense has. Granted the coaches failed, but so did the players when they couldn’t execute a simple play.
 
deacdixieboy said:
Finishing 7-5 by itself isn’t that awful. Disappointing but not awful. It’s the starting 6-1 and finishing 1-4 that blows.
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I don’t know, I’ve got plenty of perspective of how much winning seasons mean around here, but it should’ve been so much more and honestly we’re not going to get that opportunity too often, so it pretty much sucks.
 
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liveanddiedeac said:
The highlights are defin

I don’t know, I’ve got plenty of perspective of how much winning seasons mean around here, but it should’ve been so much more and honestly we’re not going to get that opportunity too often, so it pretty much sucks.
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I hear you. I meant 7-5 without really any context. It’s the start plus having a lot of upperclassmen that should’ve built on last year.
 
ddeacs98 said:
I tend to disagree. I think it was more of the complacency that the offense has. Granted the coaches failed, but so did the players when they couldn’t execute a simple play.
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The execution may have been bad, but it was a bad call. It was 3rd and 2, you either run the ball or run some kind of rpo. A straight drop makes no sense to me, you can get sacked (which happened), bad throw, dropped ball or interception. Yeah with a run you may not pick it up, but the averages say you will and at least the clock keeps running if you don’t. As long as the ball carrier hangs onto the ball, there aren’t as many bad things that can happen. We lost precious yards on the sack, which made a difference since we were down to our 3rd string punter.
 
I’ve thought about Sam’s legacy all season. He was a very good college quarterback and put up huge numbers in our offense. But for someone who started as many games as he did, what’s the signature win? What’s the game you look at and call him clutch when it mattered most? Jamie Newman started like 8 games and had more of those wins than Sam. I’m really frustrated watching how good the offense can be and ALWAYS coming up short when it matters most. 0-3 against UNC, all with 8+ point leads. Going 0-3 in his last season to our in state rivals. Maybe someone with a lower ceiling and more consistency is what the team needs.
 
state at home probably. but shitloads of possessions to win or put away big games went empty
 
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We can debate the State game. It’s probably Sam’s best win. And I think he was outplayed by Leary but fortunately did enough for us to win. Last night he got outplayed by Riley Leonard. He was also outplayed by MJ at State. Sorry, but I don’t think our quarterback play necessarily sees a huge drop off, especially because I’m confident Griffis will be very good.
 
If we can’t run the ball to get 4 feet and convert the first down to ice the game, we are in for more painful losses absent a transcendent quarterback, who I don’t see on the roster or the horizon.
 
deacdixieboy said:
Finishing 7-5 by itself isn’t that awful. Disappointing but not awful. It’s the starting 6-1 and finishing 1-4 that blows.
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yup, and being favored each of those five. this season is a disappointment regardless, but losing a bowl game and finishing 7-6 would be particularly rough going into next year.
 
While we’re on that topic, it’s absolutely coaching malpractice not to have a package where the quarterback goes under center and hands off to a RB with momentum. It’s what Cooley is made for and we opted to have Sam get sacked. Cool Dave.
 
wakelaw13 said:
We can debate the State game. It’s probably Sam’s best win. And I think he was outplayed by Leary but fortunately did enough for us to win. Last night he got outplayed by Riley Leonard. He was also outplayed by MJ at State. Sorry, but I don’t think our quarterback play necessarily sees a huge drop off, especially because I’m confident Griffis will be very good.
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He got out played by three freshman QBs from our three biggest rivals in three of his last four games.

I’m not too concerned about QB play either. Most likely Griffis or whoever will be on par with Wolford, Newman, and Hartman. Hopefully they’ll be better.
 
wakelaw13 said:
While we’re on that topic, it’s absolutely coaching malpractice not to have a package where the quarterback goes under center and hands off to a RB with momentum. It’s what Cooley is made for and we opted to have Sam get sacked. Cool Dave.
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This is one of my biggest issues with the offense…in fact it may be one of the two issues I have. Our short yardage situations feel significantly more difficult than they should be and the Wildcat isn’t it. Thank god we have mostly abandoned that.

And while I’m generally a fan of the slow mesh and understand how difficult it is when defenses have to determine whether to play up or play back at a moment’s notice, that dynamic changes as the field shrinks and/or when clock and play management is critical. Walking up to the LOS when you need a yard is just so silly to me. Put in a jumbo package, hand the ball off to the RB who isn’t 5-7 yards away from the line to gain and challenge your veteran O-Line to get a push (if you decide to run). If they don’t, well shame on them, but FFS don’t get beat by beating yourself. I’d rather a defense make a big play to stop our offense than to try and play 4-D chess and shit the bed.

Dave is a great coach so he must know something I don’t, but he strikes me as overthinking the hell out of simple situations like that and it’s proven to be one of the things that has kept us from busting through to higher levels of play. The only game we should have lost this year was at Louisville. Clemson, UNC and Duke were all lost because of poor play calls and situational management. We played like shit at State and that’s a game we probably should have won as well, but it doesn’t stand out like the other three.

Anyway, imagine being 10-2 instead of 7-5. We really have nobody to blame but ourselves. Hope we learn from it and get better. Also hope Clawson retires here. He’s a great coach and a perfect fit for Wake. Anyone questioning that right now needs to step away for a while.
 
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