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Frosty said:
Yeah. My "sleep" time is usually 9pm-5am, but when I do wake up in the middle of the night I make it a point to get out of bed. I'll usually just go to the living room and read for a little until I'm ready to go back to sleep. If I stay in bed I'm 100% getting on my phone and it'll take me longer to go back to sleep than if I get up and read for like an 30-60 min.
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9pm-ish to 5am for me as well on the mornings I get up to workout. I can't sleep past 6:30 on the weekends, no matter what time I go to bed.
 
deacfan78 said:
9pm-ish to 5am for me as well on the mornings I get up to workout. I can't sleep past 6:30 on the weekends, no matter what time I go to bed.
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I'm here too, except is more like 8-4. Also vacations are pretty insane for me because my head pops off the pillow at 5 and I'm not going back to sleep no matter what. So I generally just take a dump in the lobby if I'm in a hotel and then go for a long run and then just awkwardly wander around whatever location I'm at or sit in a coffee shop or at the ,continental breakfast until my wife texts me to come get the kids before she murders them.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
this gets trotted out a lot but sounds like one of those things one study put out there and then got amplified b/c of pop-science/joe rogan or some shit.

like, what "shit" is getting done between 12-3? was creating/maintaining illumination for average to poor people really a cost effective thing to do before the industrial rev?
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Saying there's some health benefit to it def crosses into Joe Rogan/Liverking territory, but there's a lot of historical and anthropological evidence that these types of sleep patterns were the norm in pre-industrial societies. It's something that's been documented across cultures from ancient Greek texts to anthropological studies of uncontacted tribes. The most interesting documentation of it is in court depositions from pre-industrial England, which offer some really interesting insights into what day-to-day life looked like in Europe before industrialization.

From what I understand, people weren't getting up to rise and grind after their first sleep, but would chill in their homes with their families, drink something warm, add oil to lamps or wood to fires, or just go to town on eachother.
 
mako1331 said:
I'm here too, except is more like 8-4. Also vacations are pretty insane for me because my head pops off the pillow at 5 and I'm not going back to sleep no matter what. So I generally just take a dump in the lobby if I'm in a hotel and then go for a long run and then just awkwardly wander around whatever location I'm at or sit in a coffee shop or at the ,continental breakfast until my wife texts me to come get the kids before she murders them.
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What time do your kids go to bed? Are your kids asleep by 7:30 so you can wind down and get to sleep at 8?
 
I would sleep til 9 or 10 every day if I could.

The only vacation I've gotten a taste of what its like to be an early bird was our week in hawaii. For whatever reason I was totally fine going to bed by 9 and waking up at like 5-6 out there. Probably just the weird no-DST thing + doing lots of adventures.
 
cookoutdeac said:
I would sleep til 9 or 10 every day if I could.

The only vacation I've gotten a taste of what its like to be an early bird was our week in hawaii. For whatever reason I was totally fine going to bed by 9 and waking up at like 5-6 out there. Probably just the weird no-DST thing + doing lots of adventures.
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yeah we are defs not morning people. we are very much looking forward to our son being out of town this weekend (esp because I'm going to Christmas Jam so getting home at wee hours Sunday morning and then don't have to worry about getting up early).

if we're having a lazy weekend at home we alternate getting up early with our son, the other parent sleeps til 9 and the early parent then takes a nap for a few hours.
 
Frosty said:
Saying there's some health benefit to it def crosses into Joe Rogan/Liverking territory, but there's a lot of historical and anthropological evidence that these types of sleep patterns were the norm in pre-industrial societies. It's something that's been documented across cultures from ancient Greek texts to anthropological studies of uncontacted tribes. The most interesting documentation of it is in court depositions from pre-industrial England, which offer some really interesting insights into what day-to-day life looked like in Europe before industrialization.

From what I understand, people weren't getting up to rise and grind after their first sleep, but would chill in their homes with their families, drink something warm, add oil to lamps or wood to fires, or just go to town on eachother.
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if only we could go back in time and teach them the ways of hustle culture
 
i also have zero capacity to sleep in

i kinda like it though -- i like mornings
 
cookoutdeac said:
I would sleep til 9 or 10 every day if I could.

The only vacation I've gotten a taste of what its like to be an early bird was our week in hawaii. For whatever reason I was totally fine going to bed by 9 and waking up at like 5-6 out there. Probably just the weird no-DST thing + doing lots of adventures.
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plus your body probs stayed on eastern time so 9pm in hawaii is well past midnight (not googling time difference)
 
cookoutdeac said:
if I had a gym with childcare you can bet your ass i'd be there 2hrs a day too
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Our gym has childcare, but they’ll only watch 2 kids under 18 months at a one time so you have to call and reserve spots. They cap those kids at 90 minutes, and they don’t change diapers. So, it’s not that helpful.

Our son goes to Church Preschool from 9-1 but our daughter was too young to start. Now that she’s old enough we just need to wait for a spot to open up.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
i also have zero capacity to sleep in

i kinda like it though -- i like mornings
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Yeah even on vacation I love being up and wandering around before everyone is awake. It's a lot better during the summer when it gets light early than it is in the winter when it's all dark and cold.
 
mako1331 said:
I'm here too, except is more like 8-4. Also vacations are pretty insane for me because my head pops off the pillow at 5 and I'm not going back to sleep no matter what. So I generally just take a dump in the lobby if I'm in a hotel and then go for a long run and then just awkwardly wander around whatever location I'm at or sit in a coffee shop or at the ,continental breakfast until my wife texts me to come get the kids before she murders them.
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You shit in the middle of the lobby? Or a corner of the lobby? That is pretty brazen. I dig it!
 
I wake up automagically at 7 every morning now, but I can't move until I force myself to closer to 8 and it's very reluctantly. Not that I could sleep that much more, I just don't want to get out of bed. Usually am in bed 10-ish lately, sometimes a little earlier, sometimes later. I love sleep and bed and dreaming; wish I could do it all the time. Dreams way cooler than real life.
 
mako1331 said:
Yeah they're in bed reading at 7:30. Normally asleep by 8.
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That must be nice. Most nights we're not starting the bedtime routine until 7:30 so they are getting in bed at 8. They share a room which contributes to them taking a long time to settle down, but they're best friends and don't want to be in separate rooms at this point. It works, kind of, but it means that most nights I don't get to bed before 10...would really prefer to be more of a 9:30 - 5:30 schedule, but that's been nearly impossible for me to implement for myself with the schedule the kids are on.
 
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I’m flying to Vegas tomorrow and I’m looking forward to sleeping for like 10 hours but still being up super early because of the time change.
 
we had a client project years ago with about 100 people all living in a hotel in birmingham for a couple of months. someone regularly would come in late at night and take a dump in the middle of the lobby bathroom floor. eventually the hotel installed a camera and sent the video to our management. Our managing partner called the guy into his office, made him watch the video, then accepted his resignation.
 
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