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MBB Game 19: #19 Clemson Tigers @ LJVM -- Tuesday 9pm - Regional Sports Networks (ESPN+)

WFcatamount22 said:
If we beat UVA on Saturday that will firmly put us in the tourney and not on the bubble right.... RIght??

Wins over UVA, Duke, Clemson, Georgia, VT, and Wisconsin... If that isn't good enough then WTF
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Yeah we'd be in the field Lunardi puts out on a biweekly basis for sure at that point. Said entering last night Wake is on the bubble with a win against Clemson so a UVA win would keep boosting. We have a top 45 strength of record and KPI (the two resume-based factors that appear on each team's teamsheet for the committee).
 
NJDeac’22 said:
Ugly, ugly game. I will take an ugly win over a high level loss any day of the week. This team was dragged into a dog fight and came out on top. Hopefully we clean it up on Saturday as that will need to be a more under control game to get the win.
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You have a weird way of defining “ugly game”. We scored 87, shot 46%, had 13:6 assist to turnovers, and lead by double digits nearly the whole game. You call a high scoring, good shooting, low turnover, double digit win “ugly”?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
You have a weird way of defining “ugly game”. We scored 87, shot 46%, had 13:6 assist to turnovers, and lead by double digits nearly the whole game. You call a high scoring, good shooting, low turnover, double digit win “ugly”?
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Yeah, it's not like we won 59-49.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
You have a weird way of defining “ugly game”. We scored 87, shot 46%, had 13:6 assist to turnovers, and lead by double digits nearly the whole game. You call a high scoring, good shooting, low turnover, double digit win “ugly”?
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I don't know what he meant by ugly. Watching from a few rows back the game felt very disjointed and rough for lack of better words, due to the refs letting them play most of the game. In a general sense it felt ugly compared to what college basketball looked like when I was in school. I thought it was entertaining though. Glad we went right at Clemson. Forbes said that has been a point of emphasis since Rutgers.

I didn't mind letting them play in general, but it seemed like Clemson bigs spent a lot of time swinging arms, hip checking, and elbowing us in the back on rebounds.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
You have a weird way of defining “ugly game”. We scored 87, shot 46%, had 13:6 assist to turnovers, and lead by double digits nearly the whole game. You call a high scoring, good shooting, low turnover, double digit win “ugly”?
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I went back and watched the extended highlights this morning, and ugly was definitely the wrong word. It was helter skelter for the first 10 minutes with bodies flying and loose balls but not a lot turnovers, and it was helter skelter again for a few minutes in the second half, but I think that was pretty intentional from us especially against a short handed team, and playing that fast with just 6 turnovers is crazy. Wasn't ugly, just looked different than we've looked in a lot of other wins.
 
Re-watched the game and we had a few opportunities to really blow it wide open and didn't capitalize. It probably should have been a 15-20 pt. win against a good Clemson team, which is telling (despite them missing a few key players). Great timeouts used by Forbes in the 2nd half to get us under control again.

Long story short, we have talent and Forbes is the best thing to happen to WF B-Ball in a decade. Hope Klintman emerges down the stretch as we are going to need more rebounding and defensive capabilities around the perimeter. Was thinking Keller would be that guy, but either he's not practicing well or is nursing an injury that we don't know about...just weird to see his minutes drop off a cliff.

Love to see us improving month to month, because that hasn't happened in a long, long time. Holy shit, we're a tourney team. Go Deacs!
 
We got a little overconfident and sloppy when we would get to a 12-15 point lead. Tyree trying to get downhill too quickly, or taking the first decent look on a possession instead of running the offense.

I think Forbes has been excellent with the timeouts this year.
 
Unpopular opinion alert:

After watching the game, I think I decided that actually...the Duke players are less hateable than Hunter Tyson and Ian Schieffelin
 
thatguy2016 said:
Unpopular opinion alert:

After watching the game, I think I decided that actually...the Duke players are less hateable than Hunter Tyson and Ian Schieffelin
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I'm in agreement, somewhat. I don't mind Tyson, personally. He's got a nice game and is a little intense. Can't fault him for that and don't think he's dirty. Schieffelin, I'd happily get in a fist fight with. Fuck that guy.
 
They have four white dudes who are just clones in my mind. Hall, Tyson, Schieffelin, and Middlebrooks.

#wealllookalike
 
I lodged a formal complaint with Bally about their app truncating the game last night at the most inopportune and thoughtless time. We'll see what they have to say.

I don't wanna watch some goddamn cooking show, or whatever the hell it was.
 
Not a particularly astute observation, but we needed Bradford and Marsh to cover Hall. He's too much of a beast on offense for Keller. When Marsh was ineffective (Forbes said something in the post game about Marsh fronting him and that being the wrong strategy), Forbes went to Bradford to body him up. As painful as Bradford was on offense, he did a good job on defense. And that was clearly more important because Hall was the only one keeping Clemson in the game.

Clemson too physical for Klintman right now, which is why I suspect we didn't see him as much as usual.

Forbes and the staff do a really good job with the rotation and understanding which matchups are important. I'm sure it keeps the team on their toes, as well... Which is a good thing because you have to be ready when you're called to action.
 
mercurydime said:
I lodged a formal complaint with Bally about their app truncating the game last night at the most inopportune and thoughtless time. We'll see what they have to say.

I don't wanna watch some goddamn cooking show, or whatever the hell it was.
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hmm I didn't even get that. it just stopped and then when I clicked on the game on the main screen it started at the beginning.
 
I probably missed this but - why are we not giving Keller a single minute? I would ask the same about Lucas but unfortunately didn't think he provided much for this team judging from the first few games. But really thought Keller had enough potential to be giving at least a bit of playing time here & there - I feel like it would help to have just one more additional person in rotation. Also praying Bradford works on those free throws
 
SkyDivingDeacon said:
Re-watched the game and we had a few opportunities to really blow it wide open and didn't capitalize. It probably should have been a 15-20 pt. win against a good Clemson team, which is telling (despite them missing a few key players). Great timeouts used by Forbes in the 2nd half to get us under control again.
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Yeah, when Clemson was stuck on 59 and we went on that 7-0 run (to make it 72-59), we had the chance to really blow it open. From the 8 minute mark to about the 5 minute mark, there were a ton of empty possessions on both sides. They ultimately cut it back to 7 points, but you could tell that Clemson was gassed at about the 10 minute mark and we let them hang around a bit. Great defense to hold them at 59, but the offense took a few bad/rushed shots.

I was really impressed with how Clemson hung around even though Hall and Tyson were on fumes near the end. They are a very good team.

Also looks like only Ty (3) and Cam (2) had turnovers... There was a team turnover also listed. 6 TOs is the best we've done in years. And super impressive that nobody had one outside of the 2 guys that handled the ball the most.
 
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