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chat thread: some fresher, newer vibes

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TimmyClutch said:
I will encourage, especially at young ages. I think its something that you can do most anywhere and don't need a team or a huge organization to be involved in. Its something I can help with as well. I can't teach them to throw a curve or do a good corner kick, but I can teach them a double leg take down. Also, the athleticism translates to other sports.
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No other sport teaches work ethic and self discipline like wrestling.
 
Deacfan2009 said:
This is fair, but thus far it seems like you've gotten mad about ANY criticism towards Tommy White. e.g. when someone calls him trashy even though he's clearly projecting that image on purpose.

If you were just calling out the really inappropriate shit (which I acknowledge does exist) then you wouldn't be getting so much flack.
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i actually haven't gotten mad at any of it re: Tommy. My only real comments have been that off the field he is 180 degrees opposite of it. now i get a little spicy when challenged on it, but my bigger problem is the crap on these other guys
 
BeachBumDeac said:
sure but posting dumb shit on an internet message board is very, very far from saying dumb shit directly to an athlete.
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Oh 100 percent. I think I’m just explaining why I’m reticent to participate in it on the boards. Of course with 20k posts I’m sure I’ve said some awful things about opposing athletes too in my history.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
sure but posting dumb shit on an internet message board is very, very far from saying dumb shit directly to an athlete.
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not really. in a social media culture many of these guys care more about what's said about them online. And 1/10th of the people that say shit online would say it to an athlete
 
BeachBumDeac said:
does the sport teach work ethic and self discipline or do people who already have those qualities gravitate to the sport
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Good point. I know it never appealed to me. It seemed like the least fun high school sport to participate in by a mile.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
does the sport teach work ethic and self discipline or do people who already have those qualities gravitate to the sport
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I think it's taught. I wrestled as a kid and it's the one sport I've played competitively where you actually have to live it from such a young age. The emphasis on diet, conditioning, learning patience and adaptability really sets it apart imo. And you have to start with this stuff from the jump if you want to be competitive. The only other sport I would put into the same category is track.
 
It’s understandable that Windy is defensive of a kid that he’s seen grow up. One of my former players will be a lineman at State next year and I know I’ll react in the same way.
 
WindyCityDeac said:
i actually haven't gotten mad at any of it re: Tommy. My only real comments have been that off the field he is 180 degrees opposite of it. now i get a little spicy when challenged on it, but my bigger problem is the crap on these other guys
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mad was probably the wrong word, but my drive-by opinion is that you have seemed overly defensive. IDK why if he's truly the opposite of that image he chooses to project it or take money from organizations like Barstool sports but hey whatever you say!

The other thing LSU players in particular have going against them is they have chosen to associate with a school that has a pretty openly racist/homophobic fanbase and their message board has been particularly sad to read for me personally. So it's hard to muster up too much sympathy when like the worst thing I've read is that their pitching lab must be a Golden Corral.
 
WindyCityDeac said:
not really. in a social media culture many of these guys care more about what's said about them online. And 1/10th of the people that say shit online would say it to an athlete
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right but kids aren't coming to a message board. they're reading instagram comments/DMs or tweets

ogboards doesn't get attention unless it's clipped by somebody like message board geniuses and posted on another platform.
 
WindyCityDeac said:
not really. in a social media culture many of these guys care more about what's said about them online. And 1/10th of the people that say shit online would say it to an athlete
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If we were out here tweeting at them or DM'ing them this kind of abuse I'd agree (this is the kind of shit they can't escape and is overwhelmingly negative and sad). I sincerely doubt they are reading ogboards game threads.
 
mako1331 said:
Good point. I know it never appealed to me. It seemed like the least fun high school sport to participate in by a mile.
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It's also one of those sports where it is not socially acceptable to do as an adult. I mean, I'm not sure I've ever seen a couple of folks going all greco-roman at the park. Are there pick-up wrestling matches happening that I don't know about?
 
DeacInVermont said:
It's also one of those sports where it is not socially acceptable to do as an adult. I mean, I'm not sure I've ever seen a couple of folks going all greco-roman at the park. Are there pick-up wrestling matches happening that I don't know about?
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Check out the cruising thread. Lots of good recs for spots for "pick-up wrestling".
 
DeacInVermont said:
It's also one of those sports where it is not socially acceptable to do as an adult. I mean, I'm not sure I've ever seen a couple of folks going all greco-roman at the park. Are there pick-up wrestling matches happening that I don't know about?
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IDK but I'll tell you what I really fucked up my neck drunk wrestling w/wakephan09 before TWDeac's wedding 6 or 7 years ago. Adult bodies fall apart too easy for wrestling
 
The other thing I think is worth saying about wrestling is that it is humbling. Getting absolutely owned in a match is humiliating because you can almost always trace it back to your opponent simply working harder than you. Sure sometimes you got run through by some athletic freak who ended up at Iowa or Penn State or wherever, but 99% of the time when you lose a match at the youth level you just got out worked. Good, but tough, lesson to learn young.
 
TimmyClutch said:
I will encourage, especially at young ages. I think its something that you can do most anywhere and don't need a team or a huge organization to be involved in. Its something I can help with as well. I can't teach them to throw a curve or do a good corner kick, but I can teach them a double leg take down. Also, the athleticism translates to other sports.
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I will also encourage, I think, but I’m wondering what the right age is for him to start. There is a club affiliated with our assigned high school for K-8.

Nothing I have ever done has been as hard as wrestling and I know there probably aren’t many things I couldn’t do if I put in the time and effort required.

Looking back on it I was an athletic freak. Unfortunately, I didn’t appreciate it at the time.
 
WindyCityDeac said:
seriously, what is the joy in talking shit about some 21 yr old you have never met?
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Yeah I agree with this generally. They are just young men and women out there on a stage trying to perform at athletic levels most of could never come close to matching. Unless it’s duke players, then fuck them.
 
WRS said:
I’ll go ahead and say that I’ll become a Tommy White fan for life if he reads the OGBoards game thread in the dugout tonight and references it in a postgame interview.
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"Just want to give a shout-out to Windy for his defense of my white trash ass"
 
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