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QB Going Forward

I really think using Marruci gave the team a spark. The celebration after the game was so emotional, and I still think we should use him against State. It is not about talent or reps, it is strictly about an emotional lift.
 
wfunme said:
I really think using Marruci gave the team a spark. The celebration after the game was so emotional, and I still think we should use him against State. It is not about talent or reps, it is strictly about an emotional lift.
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With this staff? You might as well save your breath.
 
The boos from the stands Saturday when Mitch is announced as the starter will be the loudest the stadium has been all year.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
The boos from the stands Saturday when Mitch is announced as the starter will be the loudest the stadium has been all year.
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I have the honor of being one of the "Open the Gate" members for the NCSU game. I wish it was to celebrate a much happier time. Will always support Wake sports financially but some of this stuff lately is getting harder and harder to process.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
The boos from the stands Saturday when Mitch is announced as the starter will be the loudest the stadium has been all year.
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Even with the extra days to prepare, you think we're going to trot out turnover Mitch again instead of Kern or Tino??
 
morrison2951 said:
Even with the extra days to prepare, you think we're going to trot out turnover Mitch again instead of Kern or Tino??
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Wasn’t the theory we trotted Mitch out against FSU to get Tino ready for Duke, how’d that turn out? Mitch did enough Thursday night, in the coaches eyes I’m afriad, to not make a change.
 
morrison2951 said:
Even with the extra days to prepare, you think we're going to trot out turnover Mitch again instead of Kern or Tino??
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It will depend on the ambient air temperature at kickoff, along with the football inflation levels. These two factors have a huge impact on Mitch's ability to hold onto the football.
 
The season is over….a complete failure. Arguably Clawson’s worst season given that is year 10. It is obvious to everyone expect possibly this coaching staff that Griffis should not be playing at this level. I’m sure Griffis is a great kid and teammate but there are a lot of folks that are those things….it doesn’t make you a D1 P5 athlete. I’m not even sure given his size he would be successful in D II.

If you give Clawson the benefit of the doubt and say he just missed on Griffis…it happens… the question is why does he continues to double down and refuses to try someone different at QB especially considering our only ACC win was led by Marucci. It is highly likely neither Marucci or Kern is good enough to be our QB next year. We have 3 practice games remaining… why not find out. I could care less how Griffis performs at practice, he has been given more than enough time to earn the job.

We are facing massive defections to the portal because of the way Clawson has handled the QB position. Perhaps if he would acknowledge the mistake by trying our other QBs he could restore some confidence amongst the team and fan base that he is committed to winning. Otherwise…Clawson will set the program back 10 years if this type of behavior is continued to be tolerated.
 
The size issue with Griffis... while it shouldn't be a determining factor in isolation, our propensity for the slow mesh and near-the-line throws feels like the coaching staff is saying "it's OK to have deflected passes 1 out of every X attempts (5?)"

Deflected passes are empty plays, and ones we can't afford if we're to stay on any down & distance schedule. Incredibly frustrating to watch.
 
wufu bufu said:
The size issue with Griffis... while it shouldn't be a determining factor in isolation, our propensity for the slow mesh and near-the-line throws feels like the coaching staff is saying "it's OK to have deflected passes 1 out of every X attempts (5?)"

Deflected passes are empty plays, and ones we can't afford if we're to stay on any down & distance schedule. Incredibly frustrating to watch.
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Add in a qb who holds the ball too long (or loses the ball), has little to no pocket presence, and can't run outside of the pocket when receivers aren't open
 
BoDeac said:
Add in a qb who holds the ball too long (or loses the ball), has little to no pocket presence, and can't run outside of the pocket when receivers aren't open
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Totes, I was just referencing the size issue alone. We can debate the food pyramid of QB requirements all day long with this candidate
 
Beaten to death, I know. But how have we failed so miserably in talent evaluation and recruiting that we find ourselves with no one worth a damn to play QB? Especially on the heels of reasonably high level of recent success and huge facilities upgrades. Seems like a major swing and miss
 
BacktoBack said:
Beaten to death, I know. But how have we failed so miserably in talent evaluation and recruiting that we find ourselves with no one worth a damn to play QB? Especially on the heels of reasonably high level of recent success and huge facilities upgrades. Seems like a major swing and miss
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Yes. Yes we have. No commits from a P5 caliber QB since Hartman in July 2016.
 
What bothers me about how Clawson has handled Griffis is that Clawson had to know he was taking a bit of a flyer on Griffis:

Size and height: well below average
Speed: average at best
Arm strength: below average

These tangible metrics alone are hard to overcome.

Intangibles:

Pocket presence: non existent
Leadership: I’m assuming this one is above average.

Players can overcome weak metrics but the odds are not in your favor. So assuming Clawson saw “something” in Griffis and wanted to give him a chance, he should have been hedging his bet since the odds are against Griffis. Apparently he did not…not a good look for making the kind of money he is making.
 
deac87 said:
What bothers me about how Clawson has handled Griffis is that Clawson had to know he was taking a bit of a flyer on Griffis:

Size and height: well below average
Speed: average at best
Arm strength: below average

These tangible metrics alone are hard to overcome.

Intangibles:

Pocket presence: non existent
Leadership: I’m assuming this one is above average.

Players can overcome weak metrics but the odds are not in your favor. So assuming Clawson saw “something” in Griffis and wanted to give him a chance, he should have been hedging his bet since the odds are against Griffis. Apparently he did not…not a good look for making the kind of money he is making.
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Good post
 
I know it's been said, but we'd be 7-2 or 8-1, at very WORST 6-3 with average QB play this year. No way we lose Duke, GT or most likely Clemson with average to above average QB play. Such a shame.

Side note, I talked to a trainer recently that feels confident we will bring our top talent back next year and won't have to be too concerned about leaving anyone of great importance to the portal, especially on defense. So, that's promising.
 
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