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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

If you make it a challenge, I’m sure some people are willing to drop lower for academic purity
 
Deacon92 said:
If you make it a challenge, I’m sure some people are willing to drop lower for academic purity
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It’s a legit question whether it would be more fun to compete for a national championship at the FCS level or be a G5 team.
 
Deacon92 said:
If you make it a challenge, I’m sure some people are willing to drop lower for academic purity
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Anyone who thinks our academics are helped by dropping down in sports is completely wrong. When I applied to Wake in 1998, we were a much higher ranked school than we are now. Applications were way up. Same effect after CP. Guess why?
 
awakegirl said:
Anyone who thinks our academics are helped by dropping down in sports is completely wrong. When I applied to Wake in 1998, we were a much higher ranked school than we are now. Applications were way up. Same effect after CP. Guess why?
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This. We talk about Currie needing a backup plan but what we really need is Wente working hard as hell. From a purely perception standpoint, her tenure is going poorly with the massive drop in rankings (outside of her control but something that should have been foreseen and worked on) and now this hanging over our heads.
 
deacdixieboy said:
This. We talk about Currie needing a backup plan but what we really need is Wente working hard as hell. From a purely perception standpoint, her tenure is going poorly with the massive drop in rankings (outside of her control but something that should have been foreseen and worked on) and now this hanging over our heads.
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Some of the revisions USN&WR made to their criteria tjis year are not things changed quickly. She's had 2 1/2 years in office.
 
awakegirl said:
This is fair bit between this and the ACC disaster, I really hope she rises to the occasion with a hell of a plan.
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Not sure I see this as "an ACC disaster." FSU either is hanging around as a disgruntled member of the ACC for another decade or leaving a large payment to leave.
 
Deaconblue said:
Not sure I see this as "an ACC disaster." FSU either is hanging around as a disgruntled member of the ACC for another decade or leaving a large payment to leave.
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The ACC has gone from hero to zero in the past less than a decade and I don’t see it lasting another decade. To Wake, that’s a disaster.
 
deacdixieboy said:
I’m not sure we would be with similar schools, at least in football. We’d be with App, ECU, JMU type schools. Davidson, Richmond, etc. play at a lower level than we would drop to.
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No we wouldn't we would be in the ACC remnants with the likes of BC, UCONN, Pitt, Stanford, Cal, Duke. Please don't act like every ACC team but us is going somewhere else.
 
If the Big10, SEC, and Big 12 break off we will be in the top conference in college sports while they turn to G-League. I would refuse to play them in any other sports and make their teams form their own leagues in everything. Or we will be in a reformed ACC who will still have a spot in a 12 team playoff.
 
Wake's future in football is largely dependent on the number of schools included in the top division. The SEC and the B1G have cherry picked schools with long standing reputations as top tier football teams. They are positioned to receive far more money than the Big 12 or the ACC in the future. Very few schools can join either conference and bring a sufficient increase in media monies to be included as an equal party to the financial bonanza. They would prefer to be the extent of a recognized top division to augment the financial advantages they presently have. Figure 40 teams. They don't need the NCAA. The NCAA has suggested a 64 team upper tier and a new unified TV package. That likely requires the SEC and B1G to surrender their present advantage.

Wake Forest is an unlikely member in any top tier football conference. It would be better for Wake if the SEC and B1G go it alone. That would leave 80-90 schools presently playing D1 football to reorganize and seek new TV packages. Many P5 schools would be included. The compensation could be less than the Big 12 and ACC presently receive, but half a loaf is better than none. If SEC and B1G agree become part of a 64 team top tier, the number of remaining D1 teams would be significantly less. The few remaining P5 universities would be part of the present G5 and revenue from football would disappear. The recent NCAA communication to pay players and reorganize to 64 teams is their attempt to remain relevant.
 
Understand and concede the edges that the SEC and Big 10 have. Do not understand or agree with any concession to the Big 12. They are essentially the ACC West with the same TV revenues and a GOR holding the conference together.

If football continues to drive the train, why is the Big 12 in a better position than the ACC? What Big 12 programs draw national eyeballs? Baylor? No
Texas Tech? No
Kansas? No
K State? No
Colorado? No

With the right leadership and strategic decisions (which is not a given), the ACC should remain and continue to be the third power conference.
 
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