Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

[DeacDaddy]

what could possibly go wrong?

Exactly. Getcha popcorn ready

 

[Biff Tannen]

How can FSU borrow against future media revenue from the B1G if part of them leaving the ACC means the ACC gets that money? Or does part of the buyout include them retaining their B1G media money?

They are suing to get out of the GOR. They're either going to win and pay nothing or get out with a negotiated settlement.

 

[deacdixieboy]

They are suing to get out of the GOR. They're either going to win and pay nothing or get out with a negotiated settlement.

Stupid question perhaps. But what makes the ACC settle at all?

 

[Biff Tannen]

I seriously doubt that their iron clad GOR is as iron clad as portrayed.

 

[Pilchard]

Biff is now a contract interpretation expert; he so good that he can give a legal interpretation of an agreement that he has never read.

 

[TimmyClutch]

Here's a copy, its only 3 and a half pages. https://wwwcache.wralsportsfan.com/...238/ACC-Grant-of-Rights-1-DMID1-5vgd1w2if.pdf

Section 6 is probably what you would want to look at.

 

[JamesSokolove]

Biff can just walk up the street and read the original whenever he pleases

 

[LilburnDeac]

Stupid question perhaps. But what makes the ACC settle at all?

Yeah. I see only one reason why the ACC would negotiate a settlement. And that is the incompetence of the ACC leadership. So I guess a settlement is likely.

 

[Biff Tannen]

Biff is now a contract interpretation expert; he so good that he can give a legal interpretation of an agreement that he has never read.

Bookmarked.

 

[spritethr]

Biff is now a contract interpretation expert; he so good that he can give a legal interpretation of an agreement that he has never read.

Georgia is a higher tier law school, after all

 

[Deaconblue]

I seriously doubt that their iron clad GOR is as iron clad as portrayed.

FSU isn't the first school to try and break a GoR. None of the others succeeded.

 

[Pilchard]

Think part of FSU's motivation to sue the ACC was because their idiot leadership was so public about blaming the ACC for everything that has gone wrong at FSU. This riled up the FSU fanbase. So, with the FSU fanbase stoked up and their pitchforks out, FSU had to do something or the horde was going to go after the FSU leadership. So, they sued the ACC and probably have, at best, limited expectations about success, but it allows the leadership to claim they are doing something. The whole charade is stupid as it does not advance the end-goal of getting FSU in either the SEC or Big 10.

FSU doesn't even have a landing spot right now if they did get out of the ACC; the way to leave a conference is they way that Maryland, Texas, OU, USC and UCLA did it. Keep everything quiet, cloak everything in full secrecy until you have an offer and have everything in place to exit. Even Clemson and UNC are smart enough to keep their plans mum for now as it keeps options open and they do not unnecessarily piss-off the other ACC members, who FSU may need help from at some point in this process. FSU's current dog and pony show accomplishes nothing other than running up legal bills, hurting the ACCs rep (which indirectly hurts FSU) and it makes FSU look stupid (which they are).

 

[BarcaDeac]

man now that I think about it, how bad does FSU feel knowing that Maryland was a hotter commodity than them

 

[w84it]

I can't wait for FSU to blame the ACC when they lose in Iowa City in November and get passed over for a playoff spot by a .500 SEC team

 

[cville deac]

Pilch, does the B1G have any interest in FSU? Makes sense that the SEC has no interest because they already have the most popular school in the state. But I could see the B1G being interested in the FL market.

 

[deacdixieboy]

Pilch, does the B1G have any interest in FSU? Makes sense that the SEC has no interest because they already have the most popular school in the state. But I could see the B1G being interested in the FL market.

I know I’m not Pilch, but everything I’ve read and heard seems to point to UNC basically being the only school either of the Big 10 and SEC are interested in with UVA a distant second. FSU and Clemson aren’t even on the radar.

 

[Pilchard]

UNC is the prize for both the SEC and Big 10 (UVA is the #2 as much as people hate to accept it).

That said, the Big 10 does not have the appeitite for expansion right now. The conference is at 18 already. Given the size of the conference, teams are now excluded from conference tourneys in multiple sports, and winning a conference title in anything is now expotentially harder. Why make it even harder?

People think of a conference expanding as a decision made by a monolith, but the decision to expand requires a super-majority of all its members, and does Purdue, Illinois or Minnesota want FSU in the Big 10? Fuck no. It just makes everything harder on those schools from travel, to winning, to keeping traditional rivalries. The Big 10 no longer needs to expand to ensure survival; its rights fee are in place for the next few years. If the ACC dissolves, and the Big 10 and SEC are choosing who to take (to essentially block the other from getting that school) there could be another round of expansion, but the Big 10 is in wait and see mode right now.

 

[spritethr]

All the talk about going to the Big 10 from FSU fans is weird, too. Like congrats, you're replacing the likes of Syracuse and Boston College with Rutgers and Indiana. You're just going from the ACC to the ACC but midwest. The only difference is you get to be bent over backwards by Ohio State and Michigan.

 

[PhDeac]

I can't see FSU getting in the Big Ten without taking an even worse deal than Oregon and Washington took.

 

[deacz]

FSU is tailor made for the Big 12. It would be smarter to stay in the ACC, particularly now that its academics are good (but who cares about that).