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'17 Specials & '18 Midterms Thread

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Kobach was right about election fraud all along!
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Jill Stein has seemingly been running for different elections, and losing, for 20 years straight, so the notion that she was playing spoiler in 2016 is fucking stupid. What was she doing in 2012, dummy? You do realize there was a libertarian candidate running in 2016 who got twice the votes that Stein got? Also, not sure what Jill Stein has to do with this debate other than your ignorant ass cant keep up so you need to recycle old talking points.
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ignorant as to what exactly? I never claimed that jill stein was a one off spoiler, but simply said she was a bullshit candidate, which she was as wholly unqualified for higher office and a fraud. jill stein is a fucking kook. i'd like to hear you argue otherwise. and i never claimed that republicans didn't lose voters to a libertarian ticket.

you still haven't addressed the substance of the hypocrisy I pointed out.

you want to argue for voting for somebody that has a 0% chance to win out of principle? knock yourself out. Just don't expect people not to point out how fucking dumb and petulant that is when you end up getting 0% of what you want in a president/congressman when you could have had 50-75% of what you want in a president/congressman. some democrats are going to call green party voters who vote for totally unqualified whackos fucking morons. surely some green party candidate are qualified, but not jill stein. not this guy from the ohio special election. and here you are bitching about thanedar siphoning votes from a legitimate progressive when these green party joke candidates are doing the same thing. it's just the shoe is on the other foot now and it doesn't feel good.
 
Current governor running against Kobach:

Colyer establishes voting integrity hotline

"We've received countless reports that voters experienced issues when they voted on Tuesday. Many Colyer voters had difficulties finding his name on the ballot, were forced to vote on provisional ballots, or were turned away outright for unknown reasons."
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lol
 
PhDeac said:
Yeah. That's what they've done. It's worked.




"The final, unofficial results posted on the secretary of state's website show Kobach winning Thomas County in northwest Kansas, with 466 votes to Colyer's 422. But the tally posted by the Thomas County clerk's office shows Colyer with 522 votes, or 100 votes more for him, a number the clerk confirmed to The Associated Press on Thursday."

Weird mistake. Who is the secretary of state in Kansas who could make such a mistake?


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The quote from the Thomas County Clerk is pretty funny when you put in the context of who is doing the recount:

Thomas County Clerk Shelly Harms said it's possible that her handwriting on the tally sheet faxed to the secretary of state's office was bad enough in the rush of primary-night business that the number for Colyer wasn't clear.

"They just misread it," she told The Associated Press.
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It sounds like they phrased the question like she was under direct examination: "Is it possible that your handwriting was so bad that night that the mistake was an honest one?"
 
Jamison2Carter;3143123green party joke candidates are doing the same thing. it's just the shoe is on the other foot now and it doesn't feel good.[/QUOTE said:
Let me repeat - the Green party is not the Democrat party. They are two separate parties. It's not comperable because you're talking about two different fucking political parties. Can you count? On the Ohio ballot there were 1. 2. 3. seperate. party. lines. Why the fuck are you complaining that voters for another party didnt vote for the Democrat? Why didn't Republicans vote for the Democrat?
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I thought progressives were all for open primaries where everybody ran. No" clearing the field".
 
'17 Specials & '18 Midterms Thread

Rube voter ranking:

-Voted for democrat


-Didn’t vote at all





-Voted for Trump








-Voted Green Party
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Let me repeat - the Green party is not the Democrat party. They are two separate parties. It's not comperable because you're talking about two different fucking political parties. Can you count? On the Ohio ballot there were 1. 2. 3. seperate. party. lines. Why the fuck are you complaining that voters for another party didnt vote for the Democrat? Why didn't Republicans vote for the Democrat?
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Because the Green Party complains about both parties and do nothing to try to change them.
 
ChrisL68 said:
I thought progressives were all for open primaries where everybody ran. No" clearing the field".
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No. Just stop. I realize that it's your preference that progressive candidates be sabotaged and blocked by any means, but it's for the benefit of the party and country that legitimate progressive candidates have a fair opportunity in every primary. A candidate who has to get consulting to choose between running as a Republican or Democrat before spending millions of dollars on the race isn't a legitimate candidate.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
No. Just stop. I realize that it's your preference that progressive candidates be sabotaged and blocked by any means, but it's for the benefit of the party and country that legitimate progressive candidates have a fair opportunity in every primary. A candidate who has to get consulting to choose between running as a Republican or Democrat before spending millions of dollars on the race isn't a legitimate candidate.
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Well if a candidate like that can siphon votes off your preferred progressive candidate then I guess they weren't really that good in the first place. Moderate candidates that have switched parties have absolutely been legitimate candidates who have won elections But I guess you're the arbiter of what is a legitimate candidate and what isn't which seems to dovetail with your political philosophy. Jesus dude you're fucking insufferable.
 
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PhDeac said:
Because the Green Party complains about both parties and do nothing to try to change them.
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Fair. It's a ridiculous party IMO, but it's just as ridiculous to continually assume that Green party votes are lost Democrat votes.
 
no just that you are in idiot complaining about a spoiler for a candidate that lost by 22%
 
ChrisL68 said:
no just that you are in idiot complaining about a spoiler for a candidate that lost by 22%
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So 48% voted for populist outsider candidates running on Medicare for All. Got it. I already had this conversation with PH, I have absolutely no reason to rehash it with your conservative closeted libertarian ass. Move along, please.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
So 48% voted for populist outsider candidates running on Medicare for All. Got it. I already had this conversation with PH, I have absolutely no reason to rehash it with your conservative closeted libertarian ass. Move along, please.
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Yes, clearly the guy who couldn't decide if he was a Pub or a Dem only took votes from your beloved socialist candidate. If only reality matched your wishes...…….then your candidate would have still lost by 4%.
 
'17 Specials & '18 Midterms Thread

What a mess. Maybe people shouldn’t run for office while they run elections. Georgians should be concerned about Kemp pulling similar shenanigans.
 
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For the first time today we see MDMH unconsciously (?) adopt Joseph McCarthy's slur on the name of his rival party. WTF you been reading, bro?
 
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