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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

WFcatamount22 said:
Generally speaking I think you will see a lot of people move their investment profile away from stocks to low yielding bonds in the event of an impending Sanders presidency.
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And this is, again, because of their concerns about the the socialist reforms Sanders will make via executive action, right? Which ones?
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Generally speaking I think you will see a lot of people move their investment profile away from stocks to low yielding bonds in the event of an impending Sanders presidency.
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Good financial opportunity for folks that aren’t cowards then.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Generally speaking I think you will see a lot of people move their investment profile away from stocks to low yielding bonds in the event of an impending Sanders presidency.
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Fascinating analysis. Based on real facts and stuff.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
I mean after the crash, yeah.
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The turn down won't be caused by whomever is in office. It's long overdue, but the underpinning Obama put in place in 2009 has led to an historic era of growth and delayed the inevitable slowdown.
 
tiltdeac said:
And this is, again, because of their concerns about the the socialist reforms Sanders will make via executive action, right? Which ones?
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M4All, taxing actual gains instead of realized gains, expected business regulations, worker right acts that will virtually make small business impossible, wealth tax that incentives's people to hide wealth, destroying the fossil fuel industry, eliminating nuclear power, etc, etc, etc.....
 
RJKarl said:
The turn down won't be caused by whomever is in office. It's long overdue, but the underpinning Obama put in place in 2009 has led to an historic era of growth and delayed the inevitable slowdown.
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You don't think that socializing 1/4 of the US economy won't play a part in the downturn?
 
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A few folks moving their whole 409ks to gold or variable annuities because Lou dobbs says so does not make a bear market.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
M4All, taxing actual gains instead of realized gains, expected business regulations, worker right acts that will virtually make small business impossible, wealth tax that incentives's people to hide wealth, destroying the fossil fuel industry, eliminating nuclear power, etc, etc, etc.....
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Jesus you numbskull, you’re missing the whole point. How many of those boogeymen can be done solely through executive action?
 
WFcatamount22 said:
M4All, taxing actual gains instead of realized gains, expected business regulations, worker right acts that will virtually make small business impossible, wealth tax that incentives's people to hide wealth, destroying the fossil fuel industry, eliminating nuclear power, etc, etc, etc.....
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Half of those aren’t even real!

“Taxing actual gains instead of realized gains?” Those mean the same thing dummy. I think you must mean “unrealized” gains. Get your boogeyman terminology straight. Can I see a link to that policy btw?

“Expected business regulations” such as???? Made up.

“Destroying fossil fuel industry and eliminating nuclear” Overnight immediate conversion to lame ass solar and wind! Fill up your gas tanks now before it’s too late!

Would you really sell all your stock the second Bernie gets elected for bullshit like that?

This is why you can never privatize social security by the way. As fake as all that shit is, half of Americans are even dumber than that and will go dead broke instantly if they could invest their SS themselves.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
You don't think that socializing 1/4 of the US economy won't play a part in the downturn?
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I think we’re a consumer based economy, and debt relief frees up cash for young folks to spend within that economy. The whole ReGuLaTiOnS aRe ToO bUrDeNsOmE for small businesses to exist is not really a good one. Pretty sure many of the most successful upstarts in recent American history came out of a more regulated economy. If someone makes widgets people want, people will pay for the widgets. If workers make more money, then they can buy more widgets. I’m no economist, but I would bet that taking $10M out of Jeff Bezos pocket and putting it in the bank accounts of his employees probably has a positive impact on the US economy. Every lazy article about millennials not buying X would be helped with debt forgiveness and more affordable health care.

It’s also really dumb to think that a democratic president can successfully achieve any significantly progressive goals. Sure they can start moving things a little to the left, but there’s so chance the Democratic Party would ever be anywhere remotely as lockstep as the Republican Party in governance. Democrats could control every single branch of government all the way down to the school boards and you would still have to have compromise. Just look at the board liberals on this thread alone.
 
Y'all deserve a Sanders presidency enjoy getting screwed by his bullshit demagogue ideology. Trump and Sanders are the villains we deserve. The loud people in this country suck thus shitty leadership is what we get.
 
Good post, DF07. The Republican worst case scenario is Townie, District, and CL68 get in a room together and agree on something. Your best case is they don’t and it all falls apart. It’s about 50/50.
 
And now you’re equating Trump and Sanders based on nothing and trying to walk away. Too late to play the #aboveitall card, you started it by writing all that fake bullshit.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Y'all deserve a Sanders presidency enjoy getting screwed by his bullshit demagogue ideology. Trump and Sanders are the villains we deserve. The loud people in this country suck thus shitty leadership is what we get.
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Dude, if you want to hate on Bernie, that's fine, just do it for real reasons, not made up bullshit.

"M4All, taxing actual gains instead of realized gains, expected business regulations, worker right acts that will virtually make small business impossible, wealth tax that incentives's people to hide wealth, destroying the fossil fuel industry, eliminating nuclear power, etc, etc, etc."
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You originally were talking about his socialist executive actions. But then you post that, which is basically just a conservative fear mongering mad lib that has very little basis in reality. We can argue about M4A, but it has no chance of passing, and lol at it being an executive order. I think your second comment was supposed to be against mark to market taxation, which Bernie has not even proposed (Senator Wyden has though, and I think his proposal is pretty good, you should take a look). "Business regulations" sure sounds scary, you have a specific executive action in mind? "Worker rights" also sounds terrifying, because I mean, you can't run a business if your workers have rights. And I'm sure the wealth tax (also, again, not an executive action) will send half this board running to hide their cash (most of us have over $32 million, right?). Bernie is not going to destroy the fossil fuel industry, the free market will because clean energy will be cheaper and better (unless the Oil and Coal lobbyists get there way, who exactly do you think is propping up the Coal industry in this country, Bernie?).

We can talk about these policies and their merits or lack thereof. I certainly don't agree with everything Bernie is proposing. But to act like he's going to turn the US into a socialist country by executive fiat is just silly. And I think you know that, right? So what is the real reason?
 
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06deacon said:
And now you’re equating Trump and Sanders based on nothing and trying to walk away. Too late to play the #aboveitall card, you started it by writing all that fake bullshit.
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Just don't see why we can't all be happy about a Biden presidency.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Just don't see why we can't all be happy about a Biden presidency.
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Other than the president having a vagina and being more intelligent, we had a chance at that in 2016. Did you vote for Clinton since you seem so content with that ideology in the WH?
 
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