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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary

jhmd would be proud to know posters who resisted #Benghazi four years have given into #Burisma. Horseshoe theory at work.

Has this been posted yet?

[h=1]Leftist Policy Didn’t Lose. Marxist Electoral Theory Did.[/h]

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/04/11/leftist-policy-didnt-lose-marxist-electoral-theory-did/

But defeatism would be the wrong lesson for leftists interested in passing social democratic policies in America and Britain. The reality is that leftist policy has never been more ascendant in the Democratic Party since at least the 1960s if not the 1930s. The Biden 2020 campaign platform is well to the left of the Clinton 2016 platform, which was itself well to the left of the Obama 2008 platform. Every major candidate in the 2020 field ran either on some version of Medicare for All, or at least a public option and Medicare expansion as a pathway toward it. Every major candidate proposed much bolder action on climate change than the Obama administration, and major policies to address student debt and college tuition. And on social policy from LGBT rights to criminal justice, the difference between the Democratic Party of today and that of 10 years ago could not be more stark. Most of those advances are due to the hard work of leftists whose tireless advocacy has successfully won the force of moral argument and persuaded mainstream Democratic base voters and independents. Most Democrats–including Joe Biden voters–overwhelmingly support leftist policy like Medicare for All and a Green New Deal.
Moreover, culturally liberal Democratic politicians have won with leftist policy platforms all over the country, even in tough, formerly Republican districts. Katie Porter is a no-nonsense surburban single mother who looks and talks like a resistance liberal you might see in any Indivisble meeting, but adamantly champions leftist policy like Medicare for All. Katie Hill won her purple district not as a revolutionary but as an amiable bisexual Millennial who also happens to support Medicare for All and other social democratic policy. And, of course, there has been a major political shift seeing many deeper blue districts replace more centrist politicians like Joe Crowley in New York and Dan Lipinski in Illinois with much more progressive candidates like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Marie Newman. What did lose unequivocally, however, was a certain brand of anti-partisan class revolutionary electoral politics rooted in industrial-era Marxist theory. Zack Beauchamp’s excellent analysis at Vox is essential reading on this topic, but the upshot is that regardless of leftist policy, a strain of Marxist theory since the late 19th century has posited that the left can usher in a socialist utopia by uniting the workers of the world–and that any cultural divisions within the working class that get in the way are the product of false consciousness and manufactured consent to prevent the proletariat from arising together to overthrow their capitalist chains. In keeping with this tradition, leftists who subscribe to this ideology see the hyper-partisan divides of the modern era as the ultimate artificial divisive construct, and are adamantly hostile to a political reality in which suburban middle-class professionals (regardless of race, gender or culture) dominate the party of the “left” while blue-collar rurals (again regardless of race, gender or culture) dominate the “right.”
Accordingly, this perspective informs a Marxist electoral paradigm that 1) is explicitly hostile to the Democratic Party as it currently exists; 2) assumes that there must be a big mass of independent voters and non-voters to the left of base Democrats on economics and open to revolutionary politics; and 3) attempts to minimize cultural divisions and negative partisanship in favor of winning over large swaths of people with theoretically culturally conservative but economically progressive politics.
Unlike leftist policy more broadly, this theory of the electorate has utterly failed. First, it turns out that in Democratic primaries, most voters actually like the Democratic Party! Second, as a bevy of political science studies have already shown for years, “independents” are something of a misnomer: they are a divided group that tend to vote almost exactly like partisans, but simply don’t choose to affiliate officially with a party. They aren’t in any significant sense to the left of base Democrats. Third, whatever the secret formula is for turning out voters under 45 in large numbers, the Sanders campaign didn’t find it. Certainly, Sanders won voters under 45 decisively (with Warren coming in a consistent if distant second), but didn’t turn them out in anything like the numbers needed to win. It is possible that a more explicitly generational politics might have done so, but Marxist constructs tend to eschew generational politics as yet another distraction from working-class solidarity politics–despite the fact that a “working-class” Baby Boomer who bought a suburban house in 1995 is much likelier to be financially stable than a “professional managerial class” Millennial struggling to pay rent in an urban studio apartment. Fourth, culturally conservative whites did not cross over in remotely the numbers leftists might have hoped.

So where does the left go from here? The answer seems simple enough. Instead of using political campaigns as a proxy for testing industrial-era Marxist theories of social alignment, those who want to see leftist policy actually enacted should meet voters where they are and maximize gains within the partisan reality that actually exists. This means, among other things:
1) Embracing the Democratic Party and its voters as a positive force for change. Rather than seeing the party and its voters as an obstacle in the way of transforming society and the country, work to persuade Democrats that candidates who espouse more leftist policy while embracing the liberal side of modern cultural divides can and will win in general elections;
2) Using negative partisanship against the Republican Party to drive turnout. Rather than seeing partisanship as a false consciousness construct of an elite duopoly, recognize it as the fight between decency and cruelty that is actually is, and maximize both social and economic leftist policy within the partisan framework. If that means that some members of the working class with deplorable social views will never come on board, so be it. Leftists can still help them achieve greater material benefits while acknowledging that they will never be grateful for it at the voting booth.
3) Working with even centrist coalition partners on mutual partisan goals aimed at eliminating the unfair chokeholds the right-wing maintains over progress. Much of the rancor between left and center-left is little more than rats fighting in a cage built by the Senate filibuster, gerrymandering, the electoral college, conservative court stacking, etc. Leftists may find that even their intra-party enemies share more of their values than they know, but that everyone is trying to find different pathways to escape the cage. Accept the reality that using the bully pulpit to advocate for material needs policies won’t magically smash that cage on its own by activating a different electorate, and get to work on breaking it directly at every key structural point: eliminating the filibuster, adding states to the union, bypassing the electoral college, pushing non-partisan redistricting, etc.
4) Stopping the use of national presidential campaigns as the key testing grounds for left-versus-liberal contests of will, and focusing more on local campaigns. First, the stakes at the national level are as high as they can possibly be: Democrats, especially older ones, are wary of defeat from past experience. Living through the Reagan, Bush and Trump presidencies has justifiably or not taught them to vote defensively. Meanwhile, conservative structural impediments to policy change at the national level increasingly minimize the differences in outcomes between liberals and leftists in power, the higher up the chain of government you go. Simultaneously, most of the biggest real divides not on strategy (do we get to Medicare for All straightaway or incrementally?) but on real policy are being waged in blue states at a more local level on issues like housing and criminal justice. Here also is where the divides are likeliest to cross partisan lines and encourage Marxist electoral strategies, as with the NIMBY-versus-YIMBY housing battles where young progressives and conservatives alike favor deregulating zoning policy against a coalition of older, more economically comfortable liberals and conservatives. Which means if young Marxist leftists want to engage in battle with older professional middle class liberals and unite with economically strained cultural conservatives, the best places to engage that fight are in races for district attorney, city council and state assembly. Again, though, it’s important for them to remember that their core supportive voting bloc will remain base Democratic voters, and the best way to influence outcomes in those races is to influence the local Democratic Party endorsements.
In sum, now is not the time for despondency on the left. There is ample cause for hope and celebration. Leftist policy is increasingly ascendant in the Democratic Party. But it does call for a change in electoral strategy. Let the industrial Marxist dream of working-class electoral realignment die, and embrace a strategy of leftist policy maximization within an aggressively partisan framework.
 
I am admittedly too. What about that tweet struck you particularly?

If those points were so important, why not bring them up during the campaign? And if they weren’t important enough then, why now, after your boss has conceded?

Instead of trying to focus on the real goal (she would prefer Biden over Trump, right?) It’s a petty, small person trying to tear down a opponent that just thoroughly defeated her team by invoking the other side’s conspiracy theory talking points.

It’s a toddler throwing a tantrum. And it’s a poor reflection on Bernie if that’s who he picked to be a key piece of his team.
 
If the situation was reversed and Biden's top surrogates were on Twitter trying to convince his supporters to basically not vote for Bernie after he sealed up the nomination the progressive circle-jerk usual suspects here would be fucking apocalyptic.
 
If those points were so important, why not bring them up during the campaign? And if they weren’t important enough then, why now, after your boss has conceded?

Instead of trying to focus on the real goal (she would prefer Biden over Trump, right?) It’s a petty, small person trying to tear down a opponent that just thoroughly defeated her team by invoking the other side’s conspiracy theory talking points.

It’s a toddler throwing a tantrum. And it’s a poor reflection on Bernie if that’s who he picked to be a key piece of his team.

the tweet is a little out of context -- I went back and looked it up and it was a response to another tweet being surprised that the narrative on Bernie was that he was too soft on Biden

 
If the situation was reversed and Biden's top surrogates were on Twitter trying to convince his supporters to basically not vote for Bernie after he sealed up the nomination the progressive circle-jerk usual suspects here would be fucking apocalyptic.

All you are doing here is amplifying the problem. How do you normally treat a toddler throwing a tantrum?
 
All you are doing here is amplifying the problem. How do you normally treat a toddler throwing a tantrum?

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There’s this talk about unity as this kind of vague, kumbaya, kind of term. Unity and unifying isn’t a feeling, it’s a process. And what I hope does not happen in this process is that everyone just tries to shoo it along and brush real policies — that mean the difference of life and death or affording your insulin and not affording your insulin — just brush that under the rug as an aesthetic difference of style.

There’s also this idea that if we all just support the nominee that voters will come along as well. I’ve flagged, very early, two patterns that I saw [among Biden’s campaign], which is underperformance among Latinos and young people, both of which are very important demographics in November. And so, I don’t think this conversation about changes that need to be made is one about throwing the progressive wing of the party a couple of bones — I think this is about how we can win.

The whole process of coming together should be uncomfortable for everyone involved — that’s how you know it’s working. And if Biden is only doing things he’s comfortable with, then it’s not enough.

Can you give me examples of areas that you want to see him get “uncomfortable?”

They floated this olive branch to the progressive left of lowering the Medicare age to 60. And it’s almost insulting. I think Hillary was looking at policies that lowered it to 50. So we’re talking about a “progressive concession” that is 10 years worse than what the nominee had in 2016.

Progressives aren’t a monolith like every voting block isn’t a monolith. But I also know, from a Latino perspective, I think we need a real plan to be better than what happened during his service with the Obama administration.

In terms of deportations?

In terms of deportations, in terms of apprehensions, I mean, even in terms of rhetoric. It was just a couple months ago that he told immigrant activists to vote for someone else. I want to see him get uncomfortable there. Putting “Dreamers” on a path to citizenship is great, but that’s a policy concession from 10 years ago.

People need to feel hope in a Democratic administration. And that’s what this is about.

If we’re not talking about paths to citizenship for undocumented people, and if we’re just talking about policy changes of 5 or 10 percent — especially when you look at something like climate change — it’s not about moving to the left. It’s about who is able to find hope in your administration. And creating plans that give people hope and possibility.
 
Bernie endorses Biden. Warren the only Dem candidate to not endorse yet?

so, wait

why would biden even want an endorsement from an "egomaniacal" "commie" "piece of shit" "writer of rape fantasies" "delusional" "policy idiot" with a basically criminal online fan base whose policies aren't popular to a meaningful majority of registered democrats ?!?!?

biden and biden supporters should immediately denounce this endorsement, imo
 
Guys Bernie is so selfish, what a dick.

And Biden looks good today.

Also WTF is CNN/MSNBC showing the NE Corridor Governor's briefing instead of this?

Another PR gaffe from Biden's underwhelming team. This should be on live TV.
 
Props to Bernie for doing what's in the best interest of this country.

Hopefully this will help to limit the antagonistic component of his support base
 
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Like I posted on the other thread, Biden said a lot of nice things about Bernie. This is markedly different than in 2016.

Bernie, please make your list/staff available to the Biden Campaign.

I wonder if Obama's endorsement will have Michelle at his side and endorsing Biden at the same time.
 
Was this Bernie and Biden talking with each other?

Bruh, you can figure that out pretty easily.

To echo other posters, very good stuff and definitely a shame that cable news decide to continue its Cuomo worship instead of actual breaking political news.
 
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