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2021-22 Men's College Basketball Season - UNC v. Kansas for the Natty

4-star Shawn Phillips decommitted from NCSU.

They should have fired Keatts. They are going to be awful next year.
 
sportsmed86 said:
This is why, while loving revenue sharing by players that is long overdue, I think for team sports all funds should be pooled and shares granted to ALL team members. Just like for NCAA and Bowl monies, then give the sponsored player more shares. I don’t care if it is 2 or 20 shares but no way in heck, the WR getting money and the Center or RB getting none doesn’t royally screw up all team dynamics. Or the QB that decides to throw more to his Buddy TE vs said NIL loaded Slot receiver. I hate the pain this will cause until it is somehow properly structured.
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This would bring back "under the table" payments to stars. It would not change a thing.

If you want more parity, decrease the number of scholarship players. It puts more good players on different teams. Rich teams have to be more accurate in talent assessment as there won't be another great player on the bench or coming in next year. Misses for rich teams would have more impact.
 
The real impact of NIL comes from the combination of NIL money and player’s ability to transfer and have immediate eligibility. The combination of those two factors is already having the biggest impact and it will get totally out of hand. Programs can buy proven players with the NIL money. And proven players can transfer to the best teams and get both more exposure and a ring. This applies to football especially.
 
awaken said:
This would bring back "under the table" payments to stars. It would not change a thing.
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That’s a weak excuse for maintaining an unregulated inequitable system. It’s inarguable that “Name Image Likeness” has already been perverted from players profiting off of self business ventures to recruits and transfers simply getting paid by the school for joining the team, as almost everyone predicted would happen. The logical next step is to ensure that *all* players are compensated equally by the NCAA for their participation, and to build a system for legitimate NIL entrepreneurship opportunities on top of that.
 
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When first announced, "NIL" meant that literally: players could use their name, image or likeness to earn $$ by promoting products via advertising, signing autographs at car dealerships, developing your own t-shirt, etc. But it has already gravitated away from that to a basic payout to get a kid to commit to play ball at your school. For example, who knows what if any use of his "name/image/likeness" will actually be involved for the kid who supposedly has an $8MM deal to play QB at TN? Maybe some super booster funded the whole thing and expects him to hang out at his multiple car dealerships on the weekends, or maybe he's a venture capitalist who only wants to enjoy winning football from his suite at the stadium and doesn't even care if he meets the kid in person.
 
The barn door is open now and things got out of control almost instantly and it's going to ruin college athletics as we knew it and in fact already has.

Your team beat my team (as a fan perspective)? Why should I care? The players on your team are getting paid a ton more than my players.

it would be the same in pro sports were it not for a salary cap. There is simply no way to have anything resembling fair competition if there's no limit to spending to field teams.
 
College sports has now adopted the American Political structure. Unfettered dark money contributions. Pretty soon Nike will be funneling money through a Ford dealership in Birmingham Alabama masquerading as an Alabama fan man. It's quite sad. People of honor know this steaming pile of corruption is wrong. Zero leadership across the board. It's quite surprising University Presidents are silent. Could be the guilt of a $trillion in student loans they sucked up.
 
macktheknife said:
College sports has now adopted the American Political structure. Unfettered dark money contributions. Pretty soon Nike will be funneling money through a Ford dealership in Birmingham Alabama masquerading as an Alabama fan man. It's quite sad. People of honor know this steaming pile of corruption is wrong. Zero leadership across the board. It's quite surprising University Presidents are silent. Could be the guilt of a $trillion in student loans they sucked up.
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The only problem with this analogy is that there was unfettered dark money before NIL brought it more into the open.
 
MichDeac25 said:
The only problem with this analogy is that there was unfettered dark money before NIL brought it more into the open.
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The analogy fits. “Dark money” in politics is legal and untraceable whereas it was under the table but an open secret.
 
MichDeac25 said:
The only problem with this analogy is that there was unfettered dark money before NIL brought it more into the open.
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But it wasn't really unfettered before NIL. Way, way fewer rich donors were willing to participate in illicit payments. The donors and the total money available in the NIL world will be orders of magnitude more plentiful.
 
SMU received the death penalty for what A&M is legally doing now
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
That’s a weak excuse for maintaining an unregulated inequitable system. It’s inarguable that “Name Image Likeness” has already been perverted from players profiting off of self business ventures to recruits and transfers simply getting paid by the school for joining the team, as almost everyone predicted would happen. The logical next step is to ensure that *all* players are compensated equally by the NCAA for their participation, and to build a system for legitimate NIL entrepreneurship opportunities on top of that.
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To that point:

 
PhDeac said:
To that point:

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He will probably redirect to the University for the platform they provided. Glad to see that.
 
This Shaedon Sharpe debacle is insane. Imagine going to college without even *knowing* when you graduated from high school? His entire camp tells everyone for a year that he is ineligible for the draft, collects hundreds of thousands in NIL money without ever playing a game, then 3 days before the entry deadline you magically find your diploma and declare for the draft. Shaedon and his handlers absolutely finessed Calipari and the Kentucky program - and you know damn well they were the ones who refused to let him play. Wild shit.
 
How did Sharpe benefit from sitting out? I haven’t followed this story.
 
PhDeac said:
How did Sharpe benefit from sitting out? I haven’t followed this story.
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Because he was already projected as a top 10, top 5 pick. Much more likely he hurts his draft stock by playing than he improves it, simply because there’s not much room for him to move up.

Players in Sharpe’s position normally would have just signed with an agent after graduation and paid a shit load of money for private training with money advanced from an agent. Instead of doing that, Sharpe trained in probably the best college facilities, did strength and conditioning, meal planning, and practiced with great college players, and got a shit load of NIL money without ever playing a minute of game time - all based on the promise that he was actually ineligible for the draft. I can’t blame the kid for taking advantage, but it still kinda sucks to be led on and deceived.

The 10,000 ft perspective is that amateur players have been getting deceived and taken advantage of by college programs forever, so you really can’t be that upset that the a player figured out how to game the system.
 
Calipari has kinda been asking for this, because he advertises the Kentucky program as the best program for preparing players for the NBA. If a kid has the opportunity to get paid with big Kentucky booster NIL money and prepare for the NBA at no expense of their own, without taking any risk, why not take advantage of that?
 
can former players become NIL sponsors?

i could see UK creating a mentorship-type program, where incoming players get paired with pro mentors
 
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