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2023 Carolina Panthers thread - HOF Julius Peppers

Yeah my post was mainly geared around no Burns deal and Marquis Hanes to IR
 
If someone here was like a Panthers flavored ice cream scoop master, now would be a dope time for a Burns update.

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Gotta say post-camp holdouts seem like a more effective tactic than pre-camp holdouts unless the goal it to just not do training camp.

I'll firmly be on the anti-Fit side if he can't get this done after turning down two 1st for Burns and not including him in the package for the #1 pick.
 
PhDeac said:
Gotta say post-camp holdouts seem like a more effective tactic than pre-camp holdouts unless the goal it to just not do training camp.

I'll firmly be on the anti-Fit side if he can't get this done after turning down two 1st for Burns and not including him in the package for the #1 pick.
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Yea, Fitt pretty much hinged his job on being able to get Burns signed.
 
bill simmons keeps saying he's out on the panthers due to skill positions

i'm not saying they're good, but it made me look up the pats... and i don't think i'd trade with them (2022 stats):

QB - Mac Jones - 2,997 yards / 14 TDs / 11 INTs / 65% completion
RB - Rhamondre Stevenson - 210 carries / 1,040 yards rushing / 69 catches / 421 yards receiving / 6 total TDs
WR1 - JuJu - 78 catches / 933 yards / 3 TDs (w/ MAHOMES)
WR2 - DeVante Parker - 31 catches / 539 yards / 3 TDs
WR3 - Kendrick Bourne - 35 catches / 434 yards / 1 TD
TE - Hunter Henry - 41 catches / 509 yards / 2 TDs

VERSUS

QB - Bryce Young #1 Pick and Superstud
RB - Miles Sanders - 259 carries / 1,269 yards rushing / 20 catches / 78 receiving yards / 11 total TDs
WR1 - Thielen - 70 catches / 716 yards / 6 TDs
WR2 - Chark - 30 catches / 502 yards / 3 TDs
WR3 - Mingo (R) - but let's even go with TMJ for comparison - 28 catches / 490 yards / 1 TD
TE - Hurst - 52 catches / 414 yards / 2TDs

I would take Bryce's upside and Miles over Stevenson all day, everyday

Otherwise - fairly comparable skill positions
 
and Mingo might end up the best WR by the end of the season on either team
 
Oh Fit will sign Burns. It's not the Panthers holding up the signing, it's Burns. Fit would sign Burns right now but Burns isn't going to touch a piece of paper until Bosa signs.
 
buckets said:
bill simmons keeps saying he's out on the panthers due to skill positions

i'm not saying they're good, but it made me look up the pats... and i don't think i'd trade with them (2022 stats):

QB - Mac Jones - 2,997 yards / 14 TDs / 11 INTs / 65% completion
RB - Rhamondre Stevenson - 210 carries / 1,040 yards rushing / 69 catches / 421 yards receiving / 6 total TDs
WR1 - JuJu - 78 catches / 933 yards / 3 TDs (w/ MAHOMES)
WR2 - DeVante Parker - 31 catches / 539 yards / 3 TDs
WR3 - Kendrick Bourne - 35 catches / 434 yards / 1 TD
TE - Hunter Henry - 41 catches / 509 yards / 2 TDs

VERSUS

QB - Bryce Young #1 Pick and Superstud
RB - Miles Sanders - 259 carries / 1,269 yards rushing / 20 catches / 78 receiving yards / 11 total TDs
WR1 - Thielen - 70 catches / 716 yards / 6 TDs
WR2 - Chark - 30 catches / 502 yards / 3 TDs
WR3 - Mingo (R) - but let's even go with TMJ for comparison - 28 catches / 490 yards / 1 TD
TE - Hurst - 52 catches / 414 yards / 2TDs

I would take Bryce's upside and Miles over Stevenson all day, everyday

Otherwise - fairly comparable skill positions
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Noted, but what is the point of comparing the Panthers to the Pats? Tallest midget contest? [insert Bryce Young joke here]
 
guitardeac said:
Oh Fit will sign Burns. It's not the Panthers holding up the signing, it's Burns. Fit would sign Burns right now but Burns isn't going to touch a piece of paper until Bosa signs.
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it's not clear to me if burns is expecting bosa-level money? or just doesn't want to be wildly off whatever deal bosa gets and look silly?
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Noted, but what is the point of comparing the Panthers to the Pats? Tallest midget contest? [insert Bryce Young joke here]
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only because bill simmons keeps harping on how much he thinks the panthers are going to suck but the pats will be sneaky good
 
buckets said:
it's not clear to me if burns is expecting bosa-level money? or just doesn't want to be wildly off whatever deal bosa gets and look silly?
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Burns is waiting on Bosa because his agent is confident it will reset the market for pass rushers, thus eeking out a higher number for Burns in the wake of it. Burns won't get what Bosa gets but he will surely get more if he signs after Bosa resets the market.
 
i'm going to guess that burns signs for 4 years / $97-101mm or thereabouts

i do hope he gets better at run defense
 
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