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Alex Kinal - Punter

PhDeac said:
First fall practice:

[Wulffeck punts 38 yarder with Kinal looking on]

Kinal: You call that a punt? This is a punt.

[Kinal booms 60 yarder]
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The quote fits. A punt is just another kind of weapon. LOL!! :D

PhDeac said:
That's one way you can easily see the difference between NFL and college specialists. That situation in college is going to be a touchback unless the punter is really good.

That's one reason why it's frustrating to see Grobe punt on 4th and short from around the 35-40 nowadays because the odds of getting it inside the 10 are slim and the defense isn't good enough to be certain the opposing offense isn't going to make it to the 35-40 anyway. Most likely the next time the offense touches that ball it will be at the 20 or at least inside our 35-40.
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I agree. Maybe Grobe will read your post...:noidea:
 
SDeacz said:
Will the Deacs have 2 Kickers and 2 Punters on Scholly this fall? I know Newman and Wulfeck are, Plus Kinal and Chad Hedlund?

I like the competition. And also bringing a guy in before the incumbent is a senior or graduated. Lets them develop in practice with less pressure. Seems different from what they have done in the past.
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We would probably be the only school in the nation that has 4 scholarships devoted to kickers. I'm okay with that if two are seniors but it seems a little overboard. No offense but no way Wulfeck should be on a scholarship if he couldn't beat out Popham. Popham didn't deserve one for punting.
 
Given how many scholarship players don't see the field (or shouldn't), I wouldn't mind if we used 10 scholarships on specialists as long as they get the job done.
 
G'day folks,

Alex Kinal is being developed by ProKick Australia and will be ready this fall.

We are the international partners of Ray Guy and Rick Sang at Prokicker.com.

3 ex-NFL specialists working with this bloke.

Video? Awww, go on then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD-_XEoRPeg

We have trained a number of Australians to Div 1 and NFL places in the past few years - Tom Hornsey at Memphis ( FWAA Freshman punter of 2010) for example.

A lot of work being done with this young man - he is a class act and his upside is massive.

We prefer to be quiet and walk with a big stick, but if anyone has any questions I will answer if I can.
 
jamesda3 said:
Is SD Plack? If so that is great news if allowed. I believe Kinal will have to shirt this coming year to get adjusted to american style football unless he is a quick learner and blows the coaches away this fall.
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Yes, and he is a stud.
 
Jophnny Smith said:
G'day folks,

Alex Kinal is being developed by ProKick Australia and will be ready this fall.

We are the international partners of Ray Guy and Rick Sang at Prokicker.com.

3 ex-NFL specialists working with this bloke.

Video? Awww, go on then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD-_XEoRPeg

We have trained a number of Australians to Div 1 and NFL places in the past few years - Tom Hornsey at Memphis ( FWAA Freshman punter of 2010) for example.

A lot of work being done with this young man - he is a class act and his upside is massive.

We prefer to be quiet and walk with a big stick, but if anyone has any questions I will answer if I can.
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His get off time is crazy good in that video. and his hang times are good for college.

The only thing that needs to be addressed immediately is find where the other half of his shorts went.
 
Hey SDeacz, was waiting for the question re his shorts and socks.

You'd love it working with us mate - every bloke is a 5.2 plus kick - one guy is a 6 second boot - incredible power.

Australian Rules players have a wide variety of kicks we are bringing to football. The only problem is that everyone assumes our guys know nothing, but they have incredible hand and foot skills - but initially most U.S coaches do not comprehend.

We develop the guys over a 12 month period of time so they become starters.


Johnny Smith
 
Jophnny Smith said:
Hey SDeacz, was waiting for the question re his shorts and socks.

You'd love it working with us mate - every bloke is a 5.2 plus kick - one guy is a 6 second boot - incredible power.

Australian Rules players have a wide variety of kicks we are bringing to football. The only problem is that everyone assumes our guys know nothing, but they have incredible hand and foot skills - but initially most U.S coaches do not comprehend.

We develop the guys over a 12 month period of time so they become starters.


Johnny Smith
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I'm retired.

One thing you can't replicate is game experience; something College players get. 60-70K stadiums, Pressure, etc. Its one thing doing it on the field in panties with 5 guys watching off a jugs machine. Its entirely another when you are up 2 and have to punt a team out of field goal range with 9 guys coming. But, I see the talent, which some guys don't have. He's a freshman hitting 4.8s. Something I haven't seen or did.

And the 6 second I'd have to see to believe. I've only seen one guy do that.
 
Jophnny Smith said:
G'day folks,

Alex Kinal is being developed by ProKick Australia and will be ready this fall.

We are the international partners of Ray Guy and Rick Sang at Prokicker.com.

3 ex-NFL specialists working with this bloke.

Video? Awww, go on then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD-_XEoRPeg

We have trained a number of Australians to Div 1 and NFL places in the past few years - Tom Hornsey at Memphis ( FWAA Freshman punter of 2010) for example.

A lot of work being done with this young man - he is a class act and his upside is massive.

We prefer to be quiet and walk with a big stick, but if anyone has any questions I will answer if I can.
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One question I do have is how do you prepare the kickers for game situations? He has the skill/boot, but how much live work do you do to ready them for a live rush?

Also, what alterations so Aussie rules kickers have to do to get ready for American football? I was a fair kicker on the fly when i played rugby, but would absolutely be abysmal as a punter.
 
We spend a lot of time on mechanics.

Not giving away any secrets, but the main adjustments from Aussie Rules to punting involve the drop and footwork.

We have strategies to deal with the rush, but the main thing you guys have to understand is that Aussie Rules players are very physical players, they grow up enjoying a physical game, so they do not get worried about the rush - and we work so hard on their get-off times.

We trained the 2010 FWAA freshman punter of the year Tom Hornsey at Memphis.

Our guys are trained to succeed.
 
This is much better than when Wulfeck's dad used to post on premium.
 
Thanks for the answer. I wasn't doubting the toughness of Aussie players or insinuating they would be afraid of the rush, just the adjustment it takes because of the nature of the rush

Working to improve get-off times makes a lot of sense.

Again, thanks for your insight
 
IamThunderbolt said:
Thanks for the answer. I wasn't doubting the toughness of Aussie players or insinuating they would be afraid of the rush, just the adjustment it takes because of the nature of the rush

Working to improve get-off times makes a lot of sense.

Again, thanks for your insight
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One thing we may have to teach Alex our definition of what a punter does. Famously an Aussie was kicking in the NFL. On his first punt, he kicked the ball. Then he sprinted downfield, weaved his way through traffic and went after the returner to tackle him.

The speacial teams coached freaked out and asked him what the hell he thought he was doing. The punter said he thought he was football player and the object was to tackle the guy with the ball.
 
The problem with the Aussie boys is that they're too tough! Need to teach those boys how to flop and get a running into the kicker and roughing the kicker flag! j/k
 
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