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America's White People Are In Deep Shit

myDeaconmyhand said:
You shouldn't take it personally. If you take a fresh look around the political landscape and social media you'll be amazed that now that poor whites are suddenly a voting bloc, many conservatives are suddenly discovering that America has a drug epidemic that needs addressing.
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Yeah dude, conservatives didn't start and continue a war on drugs since the 80s or anything. Good god
 
I like how private and free market is always the answer to everything. All the stimulate and move forward by having less regulation is quite the hypocrisy by the right where at least from a public health standpoint, FDA, EPA and such have regulations to prevent harm and death to large numbers of people.

There's this idea that a company that does enough harm will lose market shares and then cease to exist, the problem being that people need to be injured and hurt first. So say you poison drinking water and 100 people become disabled and there are even some fatalities. The idea is the market rejects this company and they go under for doing bad, no need to regulate.

At the same time though we need to restrict immigration, regulate Muslims, put into place massive surveillance and a system to check Islamic people. All in the off chance someone is a terrorist and a couple of people a year are injured and die. Seems like government regulation of industries helps save more lives than that.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I like how private and free market is always the answer to everything. All the stimulate and move forward by having less regulation is quite the hypocrisy by the right where at least from a public health standpoint, FDA, EPA and such have regulations to prevent harm and death to large numbers of people.

There's this idea that a company that does enough harm will lose market shares and then cease to exist, the problem being that people need to be injured and hurt first. So say you poison drinking water and 100 people become disabled and there are even some fatalities. The idea is the market rejects this company and they go under for doing bad, no need to regulate.

At the same time though we need to restrict immigration, regulate Muslims, put into place massive surveillance and a system to check Islamic people. All in the off chance someone is a terrorist and a couple of people a year are injured and die. Seems like government regulation of industries helps save more lives than that.
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It isn't the answer to everything, but it seems to do a better job than the government in many areas. We've had a Democrat in the White House for 16 of the last 24 years during which time it has become relatively clear that the War On Drugs has not been working. So where are these magical Democrat programs that are fixing the problem? 16 years of jack shit.

Commielibs love to mock people who put blind faith in thoughts & prayers to solve their problems without any empirical evidence that they work, yet said Commielibs then turn around and throw that same blind faith at their political party to solve their problems while staring at a long history of that party not solving their problems. Makes no sense.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
It isn't the answer to everything, but it seems to do a better job than the government in many areas. We've had a Democrat in the White House for 16 of the last 24 years during which time it has become relatively clear that the War On Drugs has not been working. So where are these magical Democrat programs that are fixing the problem? 16 years of jack shit.

Commielibs love to mock people who put blind faith in thoughts & prayers to solve their problems without any empirical evidence that they work, yet said Commielibs then turn around and throw that same blind faith at their political party to solve their problems while staring at a long history of that party not solving their problems. Makes no sense.
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Faith is the evidence of things unseen.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Why not? When the government gets out of the way, that demo is a cash cow for used car loans, payday loans, beer, tobacco, the lottery, fast food, cell phones (there they are again), rims, strip clubs, and plenty of other things. There are ways to marry private enterprise with the public policy objectives. The problem is that the more government gets involved, the more complicated it gets.
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how does this marry private enterprise and public policy objectives?
 
Drug firms poured 780M painkillers into WV amid rise of overdoses

The wholesalers and their lawyers fought to keep the sales numbers secret in previous court actions brought by the newspaper.
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As the fatalities mounted — hydrocodone and oxycodone overdose deaths increased 67 percent in West Virginia between 2007 and 2012 — the drug shippers' CEOs collected salaries and bonuses in the tens of millions of dollars. Their companies made billions. McKesson has grown into the fifth-largest corporation in America. The drug distributor's CEO was the nation's highest-paid executive in 2012, according to Forbes.

In court cases, the companies have repeatedly denied they played any role in the nation's pain-pill epidemic.
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After losing their parents to overdoses, three children confront America's opioid epidemic

Nearly everyone in Zaine’s life had been anxiously monitoring that line for the past year and a half, ever since both of his parents died of heroin overdoses in April 2015. His parents had become two of the record 33,091 people to die of opioid overdoses that year in a national crisis that has been worst of all in rural West Virginia, where health officials estimate that overdose rates are now eight to 10 times higher than the national average. Middle-aged white men in this part of the country have lost a full year of life expectancy during the past two decades. Middle-aged white women have lost more than two years. The opiate epidemic has essentially wiped out an entire generation of health advances, and now West Virginia has begun to focus more of its resources on prevention and preservation among the next generation entering into the void.

These children are sometimes referred to by health officials here as opiate orphans, and three of the most recent ones live in a small house in South Charleston: Zoie, 10, who believed that her parents had died in their sleep; Arianna, 13, who was just starting to wear her mother’s old makeup; and Zaine, 17, who had been the one to discover his parents that morning on their bedroom floor, and whose grades had begun to drop ever since.
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“I’ve been thinking about my worst memories with all of this,” Zach said. “A lot involve you.”

“Like what?” Zaine said.

“Mostly all those times you’d be sitting outside their bedroom and the door would be locked. We could hear you out there making noise.”

“I was listening to make sure everybody was breathing,” Zaine said.
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Strickland33 said:
Capitalists are an evil bunch.
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Obviously overgeneralizing here, but I really can't understand how people like these pharmaceutical folks and gun manufacturers sleep at night. I guess market utilitarianism has its benefits.
 
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