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BBall Recruiting Thread 2k19 - Charles Coleman de-commits to Wake. :(

And just to add CMM's stats in the discussion, these are from his JR year because his stats were way lower his SR year when he was injured and when Crawford started.


 
People are still giving crawford shit. Not sure who is to blame for any deficiencies in his game while at wake. Manning and staff did him no favors. They are happy to let you blame him and turn off the flashlight that illuminates their... "coaching."
 
deaconson said:
People are still giving crawford shit. Not sure who is to blame for any deficiencies in his game while at wake. Manning and staff did him no favors. They are happy to let you blame him and turn off the flashlight that illuminates their... "coaching."
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The dude had multiple games with nearly 10 turnovers. He was athletic and that was what made it frustrating.
 
Athletically Crawford was much better... However his occasional IDGAF attitude makes me think chill is overall better for team chemistry
 
The more things change the more they stay the same.

The "is Bryant Crawford good?" argument, accompanied with his comparison to B-Chill, usually with a throwaway CMM mention.
 
CMM and Crawford performed pretty well compared to their recruit rankings.

CMM - #75 in 2012
#72 - Torian Graham (Arizona State) - 18.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 19.2 PER, 2.7 win shares, went undrafted after freshman season
#73 - Roscoe Allen (Stanford) - 8.4 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 14.9 PER, 6.2 win shares, went undrafted after RS junior season
#74 - Evan Nolte (Virginia) - 3.4 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 11.7 PER, 6.3 win shares, never averaged more than 20 mpg, undrafted after senior season
#75 (T) - AJ Hammons (Purdue) - 12.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.6 bpg, 25.5 PER, 13.8 win shares, 2nd round pick of the Mavs after senior season
#75 (T) - Terry Rozier (Louisville) - 12.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.5 spg, 20.6 PER, 9.5 win shares, 1st round pick after sophomore season
#75 (T) - Codi Miller-McIntyre (Wake Forest) - 11.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.8 apg, 14.2 PER, 6.4 win shares, undrafted after senior season
#78 - Nik Stauskas (Michigan) - 14.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.3 apg, 20.3 PER, 10.7 win shares, lottery pick after sophomore season
#79 - JaKarr Sampson (St. John's) - 13.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.0 bpg, 18.9 PER, 5.6 win shares, undrafted after sophomore season
#80 - Javan Felix (Texas) - 9.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 2.8 apg, 13.4 PER, 8.1 win shares, undrafted after senior season
#81 - Alex Caruso (Texas A&M) - 8.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4.7 apg, 2.0 spg, 17.2 PER, 13.2 win shares, undrafted after senior season
#82 - Savon Goodman (UNLV) - 3.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 15.5 PER, 0.7 win shares, transferred to Arizona State after freshman season

Bryant Crawford - #94 in 2015
#89 - Shake Milton (SMU) - 13.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.1 spg, 19.0 PER, 13.7 win shares, 2nd round pick after junior season
#90 - Kenny Williams (North Carolina) - 7.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.2 apg, 14.2 PER, 9.6 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#91 - Tres Tinkle (Oregon State) - 17.5 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 2.9 apg, 23.7 PER, 14.0 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#92 - Keith Stone (Florida) - 6.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 14.4 PER, 4.5 win shares, available as grad transfer this off-season
#93 - Marcus Derrickson (Georgetown) - 10.3 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 17.1 PER, 7.7 win shares, undrafted after junior season
#94 - Bryant Crawford (Wake Forest) - 15.6 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.6 spg, 19.0 PER, 8.6 win shares, undrafted after junior season
#95 - Justin Robinson (Virginia Tech) - 11.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 17.6 PER, 12.7 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#96 - Matt Heldt (Marquette) - 2.2 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 11.5 PER, 3.7 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#97 - Mo Wagner (Michigan) - 10.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 23.3 PER, 10.7 win shares, 1st round pick after junior season
#98 - AJ Harris (Ohio State) - 2.8 ppg, 1.7 apg, 6.5 PER, 0.4 win shares, transferred to New Mexico State after freshman season
#99 - Kobie Eubanks (Texas A&M) - 1.2 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.0 PER, -0.1 win share, left college after sophomore season
 
CreamyGoodness said:
The more things change the more they stay the same.

The "is Bryant Crawford good?" argument, accompanied with his comparison to B-Chill, usually with a throwaway CMM mention.
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People on these boards trying to be ecologically concious. Recycling topics and talking points.
 
I'd rank the three as follows: Crawford, CMM, Chill

They are on a different level than CP3, TeagueToTheLeague, and Ish

This is a recruiting thread. So where will Jacobi "#1 in Nation" Neath fit into the pantheon of WF point guards?
 
Deaconblue said:
People on these boards trying to be ecologically concious. Recycling topics and talking points.
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In our defense hatch and ronnie keep recycling bags of crap and telling the fans it'll be good for us. Hard habit to break.
 
WFUWaldo said:
CMM and Crawford performed pretty well compared to their recruit rankings.

CMM - #75 in 2012
#72 - Torian Graham (Arizona State) - 18.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 19.2 PER, 2.7 win shares, went undrafted after freshman season
#73 - Roscoe Allen (Stanford) - 8.4 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 14.9 PER, 6.2 win shares, went undrafted after RS junior season
#74 - Evan Nolte (Virginia) - 3.4 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 11.7 PER, 6.3 win shares, never averaged more than 20 mpg, undrafted after senior season
#75 (T) - AJ Hammons (Purdue) - 12.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.6 bpg, 25.5 PER, 13.8 win shares, 2nd round pick of the Mavs after senior season
#75 (T) - Terry Rozier (Louisville) - 12.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.5 spg, 20.6 PER, 9.5 win shares, 1st round pick after sophomore season
#75 (T) - Codi Miller-McIntyre (Wake Forest) - 11.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.8 apg, 14.2 PER, 6.4 win shares, undrafted after senior season
#78 - Nik Stauskas (Michigan) - 14.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.3 apg, 20.3 PER, 10.7 win shares, lottery pick after sophomore season
#79 - JaKarr Sampson (St. John's) - 13.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.0 bpg, 18.9 PER, 5.6 win shares, undrafted after sophomore season
#80 - Javan Felix (Texas) - 9.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 2.8 apg, 13.4 PER, 8.1 win shares, undrafted after senior season
#81 - Alex Caruso (Texas A&M) - 8.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4.7 apg, 2.0 spg, 17.2 PER, 13.2 win shares, undrafted after senior season
#82 - Savon Goodman (UNLV) - 3.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 15.5 PER, 0.7 win shares, transferred to Arizona State after freshman season

Bryant Crawford - #94 in 2015
#89 - Shake Milton (SMU) - 13.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.1 spg, 19.0 PER, 13.7 win shares, 2nd round pick after junior season
#90 - Kenny Williams (North Carolina) - 7.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.2 apg, 14.2 PER, 9.6 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#91 - Tres Tinkle (Oregon State) - 17.5 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 2.9 apg, 23.7 PER, 14.0 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#92 - Keith Stone (Florida) - 6.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 14.4 PER, 4.5 win shares, available as grad transfer this off-season
#93 - Marcus Derrickson (Georgetown) - 10.3 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 17.1 PER, 7.7 win shares, undrafted after junior season
#94 - Bryant Crawford (Wake Forest) - 15.6 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.6 spg, 19.0 PER, 8.6 win shares, undrafted after junior season
#95 - Justin Robinson (Virginia Tech) - 11.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 17.6 PER, 12.7 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#96 - Matt Heldt (Marquette) - 2.2 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 11.5 PER, 3.7 win shares, projected to be undrafted in 2019 draft
#97 - Mo Wagner (Michigan) - 10.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 23.3 PER, 10.7 win shares, 1st round pick after junior season
#98 - AJ Harris (Ohio State) - 2.8 ppg, 1.7 apg, 6.5 PER, 0.4 win shares, transferred to New Mexico State after freshman season
#99 - Kobie Eubanks (Texas A&M) - 1.2 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.0 PER, -0.1 win share, left college after sophomore season
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In the category of "numbers sometime lie," Crawford had better slightly stats than Justin Robinson (aside from win shares). There's no doubt who I'd rather have on my team. Robinson was a winner.
 
Since this IS the recruiting thread, I understand Tariq Ingraham is visiting Wake this weekend and I would think it likely a commitment during the visit or shortly thereafter will occur
 
sportsnut said:
Since this IS the recruiting thread, I understand Tariq Ingraham is visiting Wake this weekend and I would think it likely a commitment during the visit or shortly thereafter will occur
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Is this Laura Ingraham's son ? Is he being recruited by Sean Hannity's son ?
 
Gets dunked on in the first play of the game at 2:33
blocks big man's sht at 5:10
 
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