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Biden/Schumer/Pelosi Accountability Thread

If anyone wants a good listen on the issue and how it's a failure cascade of multiple systems having issues simultaneously: https://fortisanalysis.substack.com/p/from-chaos-to-complicated

The host is big on reshoring of our supply chain long term, but he spends most of this episode trying to address relieving the immediate problems. His explanation of how freight moves from port to truck to rail to middle America helps really lay out how there isn't a magic bullet solution.

And it also provides a detailed explanation of why this isn't something that just happened and isn't Biden's fault, no matter how much Fox News is going to beat that drum this fall.

In a nutshell he wants to invoke the National Incident Management system by having Newsome declare a state of Emergency, which then allows the Federal Government to mobilize the full amount of resources we do for hurricane response, etc. Most important, it has a single incident commander who coordinates all efforts. It shouldn't fall on Buttigieg. it should be placed on a supply chain and logistics expert/general, like Russel Honore.
 
I’m not sure what the solutions could be if the free market folks complain about government not doing anything but they don’t actually want government to do anything.
 
PhDeac said:
I’m not sure what the solutions could be if the free market folks complain about government not doing anything but they don’t actually want government to do anything.
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The free market folks never have a problem with the government bailing them out when they are fucked. See 2008.

And the solution here absolutely needs to be government intervention. Probably should have happened 6-12 months ago.
 
All the more reason to pass corporate tax hikes. They need to foot the bill.
 
PhDeac said:
I’m not sure what the solutions could be if the free market folks complain about government not doing anything but they don’t actually want government to do anything.
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The problem is with regulations. If we deregulated the industry so companies could force people to work without pay and their consent, they could get a whole lot more done.
 
bym051d said:
The problem is with regulations. If we deregulated the industry so companies could force people to work without pay and their consent, they could get a whole lot more done.
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I know you're being sarcastic, but is there any doubt that if these supply problems get worse that many Republicans, from the base to the party leadership, will start proposing such actions in reality? Their base has been complaining for months that the stimulus checks and too-generous unemployment and other welfare is the main reason why so many people "won't work."
 
Highland Deac said:
I know you're being sarcastic, but is there any doubt that if these supply problems get worse that many Republicans, from the base to the party leadership, will start proposing such actions in reality? Their base has been complaining for months that the stimulus checks and too-generous unemployment and other welfare is the main reason why so many people "won't work."
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Yeah and Madison Cawthorn has been on a kick about defunding OSHA. He tweeted the other day about Freedom over Safety.
 
Business owners / managers just don’t know what to do now that they don’t have all of the leverage across nearly every industry for the first time I can remember.

What the market will bear works great when it’s to your advantage.
 
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Yeah. That’s a good way to look at it. The invisible hand of the free market is slapping the owner/management class upside the head telling them to pay labor more and transform their industries and they refuse. This is the side of exploitation people don’t talk about. Anybody can exploit labor. It doesn’t take skill. Just capital and guile. But you actually have to have skill to run a successful business that respects labor and doesn’t harm society.
 
PhDeac said:
People have convinced themselves that the “economy” is some self-sustaining system that runs on capital. So when there is a shortage of people who truly drive the economy due to a global pandemic and decades of offshoring to reduce labor costs people flip out and want to blame somebody.
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Why do you think there is a shortage of people?
 
Liquid Karma said:
It's not unfair to criticize Buttigieg for the port and trucking mess, in the sense that the response has been so delayed. This has been coming for months and experts in the arena have been sounding the alarm bells since last fall. DoT should have been out in front of this issue and not on their back foot reacting to it now. The late delay just hands Republicans a talking point to drive home.

The Biden admin didn't cause this. Nor did Trump for that matter. But he inherits the problem and needs to lead on the solution. Failure to do so aggressively is going to have a very negative effect on the midterms.

Same with inflation.
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If a small, university town mayor with no qualifications other than agreeing to drop out of the Presidential race at the right time who doesn't come to work isn't the answer, then I'm fresh out of ideas.
 
WokeandBroke said:
If a small, university town mayor with no qualifications other than agreeing to drop out of the Presidential race at the right time who doesn't come to work isn't the answer, then I'm fresh out of ideas.
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If only Biden had appointed Chuck Schumer’s wife, then we wouldn’t be in this mess.
 
WokeandBroke said:
If a small, university town mayor with no qualifications other than agreeing to drop out of the Presidential race at the right time who doesn't come to work isn't the answer, then I'm fresh out of ideas.
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“Doesn’t come to work”
 
WokeandBroke said:
Why do you think there is a shortage of people?
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its not a shortage of people. you know that though.

its a shortage of wealthy people willing to pay a living wage and provide good benefits that help workers. its people realizing they are being taken advantage of by wealthy people that want poor labor with no other options available to work bad jobs for bad pay. we are a country that currently leaves its people behind with limited training opportunities. limited help for job seekers. an all too broken job market with impediments for far too many people looking for those available jobs. how can they possibly gain the training, experience, knowledge to make that leap working dead end jobs that only enrich the very few at the top? how can they look for a job, go to school, or study for licenses/certifications that may be an entry level requirement with limited or no childcare options? crippling healthcare debt? then again, some "entry level requirements" are bs and those entry level jobs could be filled with hungry people willing to learn if the company would make a few pennies less in profit and invest that on entry level positions.

you wanna know why 73m people want to "make America great again" ?? its because once upon a time the wealthiest among us were somewhat civic minded and were happy enough being a millionaire. now they all want to be a billionaire and you can't do that trickling money anywhere but UP. straight to the top. shame those 73m have bought in to the lottery promises of the gop because they were somehow convinced that the gop is the political party of jesus. as if he had one or cared about anything other than helping people. don't believe me? read the words attributed to him. even mis-translated they are in stark contrast to trump's republican party. the pivot came and went. hook, line, and sinker.
 
Apparently the two parents shouldn’t both be in the household.

Conservative ideology is centered around maintaining a permanent underclass to provide easily exploitable labor so the wealthy can hoard the profits from spending as little as possible on labor and working conditions. Once you understand that slavery is also the foundation of labor history of this country, it all makes sense.
 
PhDeac said:
Apparently the two parents shouldn’t both be in the household.

Conservative ideology is centered around maintaining a permanent underclass to provide easily exploitable labor so the wealthy can hoard the profits from spending as little as possible on labor and working conditions. Once you understand that slavery is also the foundation of labor history of this country, it all makes sense.
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Yes. Expecting a Cabinet level secretary to show up at work while the sector of the economy he ostensibly regulates is causing an international crisis is definitely slavery. You got it.
 
WokeandBroke said:
Yes. Expecting a Cabinet level secretary to show up at work while the sector of the economy he ostensibly regulates is causing an international crisis is definitely slavery. You got it.
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It all started in August too. Interesting timing!
 
WokeandBroke said:
Yes. Expecting a Cabinet level secretary to show up at work while the sector of the economy he ostensibly regulates is causing an international crisis is definitely slavery. You got it.
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As if there’s an on/off switch locked in his office that no one can get to.

And doubling down with the “show up at work” shit as well. Executing the marching orders to a T.
 
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