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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

PhDeac said:
Yeah. Any suggestion that ESPN will just give the ACC more money is fanciful at best. The best thing I could maybe see ESPN doing for the ACC is making a hard play to get ND to join the ACC for fear that they'll leave for the Big Ten. That would be part of a set up in which ACC programs get different contracts through some "merit based" system or whatever.

And that's a best case scenario with little chance of happening.

ESPN seems to have screwed themselves over. In a landscape where SEC is #1 and the Big Ten is #2, ESPN should be trying to position the ACC to be #3 while marketing the league as #2. But that's not likely.
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Yeah, you might see the talking heads from ESPN have a bit of a narrative change this year regarding the ACC.
 
skinnydeac said:
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Yeah, you might see the talking heads from ESPN have a bit of a narrative change this year regarding the ACC.
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it's like how ESPN pretended hockey didn't exist for years, but now, hey look at all this NHL stuff goin on
 
skinnydeac said:
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Yeah, you might see the talking heads from ESPN have a bit of a narrative change this year regarding the ACC.
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One would think that the smart guys in Connecticut would want to maximize the viewership of their cheapest property to maximize return on investment. Higher viewership for ACC games should put more advertising dollars into ESPN's pocket.
 
Deaconblue said:
One would think that the smart guys in Connecticut would want to maximize the viewership of their cheapest property to maximize return on investment. Higher viewership for ACC games should put more advertising dollars into ESPN's pocket.
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Well sure. They want to do that to all of their properties. They can't make people watch BC v. Louisville though. They can't even make people watch UNC v. Va Tech.
 
They don't really try. That's the point. Obviously, ACC teams need to be better, but ESPN barely promotes ACC football.
 
BarcaDeac said:
it's like how ESPN pretended hockey didn't exist for years, but now, hey look at all this NHL stuff goin on
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Deaconblue said:
One would think that the smart guys in Connecticut would want to maximize the viewership of their cheapest property to maximize return on investment. Higher viewership for ACC games should put more advertising dollars into ESPN's pocket.
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Yep and yep.

Looks like ESPN gave the Big Ten a shit offer and try to push them onto ESPN+. It doesn’t bode well for the ACC staying off ESPN+.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-ten-nears-media-rights-agreement-fox-cbs-nbc
 
Meh. For the past ten years all that has really mattered nationally was whether Clemson was going to win 8 conference games or 7.
 
BiffTannen said:
Meh. For the past ten years all that has really mattered nationally was whether Clemson was going to win 8 conference games or 7.
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Yet we get breathless hype over games between 6-3 and 7-2 SEC teams.
 
DeacWatcher said:
You gotta admit the SEC produces a better brand of football.
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I think key here is that it's not necessarily the quality of the football that is driving the better brand ... what the SEC has as every level, despite the quality of the team and more than other conferences, is deep pageantry / tradition, strong historical rivalries, and passionate fan bases. That's why watching Ole Miss vs. Tennessee is remotely interesting even when they .500 level teams.
 
"Passionate fan bases" at Ole Miss-Tennessee. Yep.
 
PhDeac said:
"Passionate fan bases" at Ole Miss-Tennessee. Yep.
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Passionate is understatement. Went to egg bowl I believe in late 90s for first time ever and in pregame warm-ups one of the MSU cheerleaders tackled the Ole Miss flagbearer that was running around waving the flag and was suddenly complete bedlam on field with cheerleaders and flag folks wrestling on the field with state deputies swarming the scene. Honestly that was almost worth the price of admission before game even started!
 
I think perhaps the best example of the "passionate fan bases" in the SEC -- is South Carolina ... they rarely win, but they fill that stadium and parking lot up every home weekend.
 
Gigantic student bodies in places where there ain’t shit else to do tends to do that.
 
Arguing (or inching up to the argument) that ACC football = SEC football in any meaningful athletic way is declaring war on facts, and makes us look even more irrational than most of us are.

As several people have said (and others who only want to push their perspectives have largely ignored), the thing that, for better or worse, matters the most is how many eyeballs will watch a game. Not so-called markets, not who has a higher SAT score, and not which team or conference you like the most.

And there are a lot more eyeballs watching SEC games.
 
PhDeac said:
Yeah. Any suggestion that ESPN will just give the ACC more money is fanciful at best. The best thing I could maybe see ESPN doing for the ACC is making a hard play to get ND to join the ACC for fear that they'll leave for the Big Ten. That would be part of a set up in which ACC programs get different contracts through some "merit based" system or whatever.

And that's a best case scenario with little chance of happening.

ESPN seems to have screwed themselves over. In a landscape where SEC is #1 and the Big Ten is #2, ESPN should be trying to position the ACC to be #3 while marketing the league as #2. But that's not likely.
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So why are you all like "LOL. SEC >>>>>>>> ACC!!!!!!11!!1!!"
 
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