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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

Spot the Wonder said:
No, the B1G. The SEC has no reason now. The B1G might go for it. Then fuck ND.
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The B1G sounds like it is very much sticking to its requirement that league members also be members of the Association of American Universities. Only Ga Tech, Duke, UNC and UVA are members of the AAU, so I doubt a full-scale ACC-B1G merger is in the offing. Largely based on grad school rankings and research activities. Billions of dollars worth of research grants. Makes football $$$ look like crumbs, so it seems unlikely that B1G presidents are going to give up that gravy train to let non-AAU schools in the door.

From the PAC 12, Arizona, Colorado, Washington, USC, Oregon, UCLA and Stanford are all AAU members. Some kind of merger there would be more likely. Kansas and Iowa State are as well. They don't bring much to the table athletically, but they may very well end up in the B1G after the Big 12 implosion.
 
Cool letterhead. I doubt they use it very often.

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As long as TV networks throw money around for the broadcast rights to college football games, that will drive the conference expansion and realignment process. Right now, TV markets and viewership is most important.

If the ACC added Navy and was able to tie in the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service (AFRTS) would that make the ACC more attractive for the other networks and for Notre Dame. Remember, Notre Dame has a handshake obligation to play Navy every year since th 1940s, and has honored it.
 
84Deac said:
The B1G sounds like it is very much sticking to its requirement that league members also be members of the Association of American Universities. Only Ga Tech, Duke, UNC and UVA are members of the AAU, so I doubt a full-scale ACC-B1G merger is in the offing. Largely based on grad school rankings and research activities. Billions of dollars worth of research grants. Makes football $$$ look like crumbs, so it seems unlikely that B1G presidents are going to give up that gravy train to let non-AAU schools in the door.

From the PAC 12, Arizona, Colorado, Washington, USC, Oregon, UCLA and Stanford are all AAU members. Some kind of merger there would be more likely. Kansas and Iowa State are as well. They don't bring much to the table athletically, but they may very well end up in the B1G after the Big 12 implosion.
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The B1G would take those four ACC schools in a heartbeat.

Iowa State's basketball team is a disaster right now, but their football team would be favored to win the B1G West this year.
 
Why aren't more ACC schools members of the AAU?
 
Deaconblue said:
As long as TV networks throw money around for the broadcast rights to college football games, that will drive the conference expansion and realignment process. Right now, TV markets and viewership is most important.

If the ACC added Navy and was able to tie in the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service (AFRTS) would that make the ACC more attractive for the other networks and for Notre Dame. Remember, Notre Dame has a handshake obligation to play Navy every year since th 1940s, and has honored it.
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No.
 
So the letter states July 1, 2025 as a start date, but once this thing gets rolling, we should probably expect Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC next fall. Would love to see Oklahoma lay 70 on every opponent this year, including Texas.
 
bym051d said:
Why aren't more ACC schools members of the AAU?
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Here is the AAU membership policy statement:

The Association of American Universities is an association of leading comprehensive research universities distinguished by the breadth and quality of their programs of research and graduate education. Membership in the association is by invitation.

The association maintains a standing Membership Committee, which periodically evaluates both non-member universities for possible membership and current members for continued membership, with the goal of ensuring that the association in fact comprises comparable leading research-intensive universities.
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The 66 AAU schools get the bulk of research grant dollars. With the new med school and Cone Health alliance, Wake might have a shot in a decade or so.
 
BiffTannen said:
West Virginia and Cincinnati would add nothing to the ACC or any other conference. The only reason a conference would add them is for headcount.
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Exactly. Adding one or both of these teams would actually cost ACC teams money because neither will produce enough additional income to replace what they take out each year. Cincy may because it brings the Ohio market to the ACC network. WVa fits geographically but the WV TV market is cheap.
 
Deaconblue said:
Here is the AAU membership policy statement:



The 66 AAU schools get the bulk of research grant dollars. With the new med school and Cone Health alliance, Wake might have a shot in a decade or so.
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Those are not research facilities.
 
UH OH !!! Larry Scott would have fucked this up so bad.

 
By picking off Oklahoma and Texas, the SEC is changing the game. This all seemed like it was heading to a four league, 64 team, breakaway from the NCAA at some point, but the SEC is going about it differently. They can just keep picking off the schools they want and end up with a 24-32 team break away league. They won't need the Big10, PAC 10 and ACC to joint them, they'll pick off the carcass of the ACC and then be big enough to do the same to the Big10.
 
BiffTannen said:
Those are not research facilities.
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Medical schools have a significant biomedical research component in their activities. They graduate Ph.D.s in addition to MDs. Also Clinical trials bring in big $ in research grants.
 
ACC and Pac 12 should merge for East/West conferences in a larger association. Blow it up, add a few more and make a 32 team league. I mean we're going mini NFL here, let's go mini NFL... :(
 
Deaconblue said:
Medical schools have a significant biomedical research component in their activities. They graduate Ph.D.s in addition to MDs. Also Clinical trials bring in big $ in research grants.
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Great. Go fill out Wake's AAU application.
 
Deaconblue said:
As long as TV networks throw money around for the broadcast rights to college football games, that will drive the conference expansion and realignment process. Right now, TV markets and viewership is most important.

If the ACC added Navy and was able to tie in the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service (AFRTS) would that make the ACC more attractive for the other networks and for Notre Dame. Remember, Notre Dame has a handshake obligation to play Navy every year since th 1940s, and has honored it.
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Not sure how it works now, but back in the old days, your AFN stations would just run random shows by demand...whatever popular soap operas, game shows, and primetime tv shows there were. It wasn't actually a network, per se, and certainly not in the way that NBC, FOX, CBS, and ABC are. I assume it had some kind of license, probably free or at a significantly reduced rate, to show shit that was about 6 months behind the original air date. But now with the internet and cable, you have all the usual options overseas.

Navy would bring absolutely nothing of value apart from academics.
 
AAU is just a Big 10 cartel, basically. If they want your school to be AAU, they'll get it to be AAU. I mean, c'mon. KU, ISU, and Arizona have AAU status. I could take a dump, hold it for 18 years, apply to those schools in the name of my dump, and my turd would get admitted. And it would graduate in 4 years and probably get laid several times in that time frame.
 
BiffTannen said:
Those are not research facilities.
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Medical schools have a significant biomedical research component in their activities. They graduate Ph.D.s in addition to MDs. Also Clinical trials bring in big $ in research grants.

ETA: NIH gave out $32 Billion in biomedical research grants last year. Eight figure grants are common.
 
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