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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

It really is impressive work how Wellman, Currie, Hatch, and Wente have set us up to be, without a doubt, the biggest loser in all of this forthcoming realignment. Our administration has been fully incompetent in addressing what is obviously coming. And our enabling, dipshit alumni base has gone right along with it with our head-in-the-sand, condescending attitude and complete lack of urgency. We'll be fine, the ACC will be fine, this is all smoke, nobody is going anywhere, FSU dumbasses, Clemson rednecks. Well guess what? We have nothing, absolutely nothing, to bring to the table when this all falls apart. Twenty years ago, we could point to basketball. Now, we give everyone years and years and years to not win while making excuses for their failures. We're about to get bent over and a no-lube broomstick shoved up our ass. We have mediocre football that brings no viewers, a horrendous basketball program, and middling academics. We deserve the full exodus that we are about to receive. What a shitshow.
 
Doubt Wente is on top of this as she and the other high-level members of the Wake admin are much too preoccupied with figuring out which feature of the Reynolda campus will be the next to be named after Ron Wellman. All hail the Dear Leader, citizens!
Well, yeah, Wente is interested in honoring Wellman and:

We will use a process that is different from any Wake Forest has used in the past. Instead of engaging in strategic planning – which can too easily turn into generating lists of things to do — we will focus on framing a strategy to accomplish our vision and goals together. We must determine the right things to do, and not do, in order to deliver on our mission while navigating complex and challenging times.

I like doing things, acting and accomplishing things (making the NCAAT).

Wente is committed to framing a strategy (a path?) and navigating. And then eventually, we do things?
 
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as much as I’ve cared about wake sports in my life, I’m just having a hard time getting too upset about the collapse of the ACC and Wake getting relegated to a seconds-tier conference

it’s just such a ludicrous system the way college football and basketball operates — if wake is collateral damage as it collapses under its own weight then so be it

I’ll keep cheering for wake along the way, but it’d be a lot easier to be upset if I believed the big time college sports model made any sense

I’m feeling pretty apathetic as well. Also coincides with hitting an age where I just care more about other stuff. College sports is over and it just sort of is what it is.
 
Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports provides an excellent overview of events that led up to Clemson's move and what might happen next. I agree with his conclusion that UNC and its baby brother, NCSU, might be the real key players in this drama.


...Plenty of questions linger.

Will any of the ACC schools join this secession effort as they did last spring? What is ESPN’s role in all of this? Where could Clemson and Florida State land?

Why now?

Florida State’s filing in December came a couple weeks after the Seminoles were left out of the College Football Playoff.

Perhaps an event triggered Clemson’s timing too. The CFP and ESPN recently finalized their agreement on a six-year extension with a new revenue model that puts at a further disadvantage programs not in the Big Ten and SEC.

In the agreement, the Big Ten and SEC will each receive 29% of the $1.3 billion annual payout from the network. Teams in those leagues will see their annual payouts nearly quadruple from the current figure to the tune of $21 million to $23 million.

The ACC and Big 12 will get 17.1% and 14.7% of the distribution, respectively — a striking difference that exacerbates the revenue gap and draws a tangible defining line between the Power Two and the Other Two. ACC schools will receive about $7 million to $10 million less annually than those in the SEC and Big Ten.

“Now,” says one ACC administrator, “combine that with the gap in TV revenue.”

Within three years, projections show Big Ten and SEC schools earning nearly double ($80M-$90M) in annual conference distribution as those in the ACC and Big 12 ($45M-$50M) — a gap attributable mostly to football-related TV revenue.

Interesting enough, the CFP contract is expected to include what’s termed a “look-in” in 2028 to possibly reevaluate the deal — a provision that almost certainly is aimed at the instability in the ACC.

Where do FSU and Clemson land?

This is possibly the most asked question of realignment over the last several months.

Even if the courts don’t grant them a free exit from the ACC, Florida State and Clemson feel destined to leave the league, even if that means paying an exorbitant amount (as much as $500 million each) or striking a settlement (would the ACC give in at some point?).

(3) Joining another league. Ah, yes, the option everyone wants to talk about, but perhaps not the most likely scenario for, specifically, FSU and Clemson.

It is unlikely that any SEC or Big Ten school will agree to accept a reduction in their TV distribution to add any school. For the SEC, that is especially so given its footprint: the league already owns a foothold in South Carolina and in Florida. Also, the SEC programs in those states would likely make a fuss, if they haven’t already, over inviting into the league their arch-rivals (See: Texas A&M’s reaction to the SEC inviting Texas).

In order for the Big Ten and SEC to expand, they’d likely need more money from their television partners — a lot more money (more than $100 million a year). That’s primarily Fox for the Big Ten and ESPN for the SEC. There is one problem with this.

“There isn’t as much money in the market as there once was,” said a conference official with knowledge of the networks’ dealings.

Exhibit A: the Pac-12.

Exhibit B: the decline of linear cable.

Could FSU and Clemson be added on the cheap like SMU, Stanford and Cal? Those teams are only receiving a portion of ACC distribution. The same goes for Washington and Oregon, which joined the Big Ten for half a distribution check for at least seven years.

Sure.

However, there is one current ACC program that many within the industry believe is the most attractive expansion target for the Power Two. And it’s not FSU or Clemson.

“North Carolina,” said an industry source, “is the lynchpin.”

...Several ACC administrators are expected to gather with lawyers over the coming days to review the Clemson lawsuit. The chair of UNC’s Board of Trustees has made no secret about the school’s position.

In an interview with Inside Carolina in January, he described a school that is very seriously evaluating its options around conference affiliation. “If the current financial model of the Atlantic Coast Conference doesn't improve, then it would cause real concern about how Carolina could continue to maintain its excellence in athletics,” said chair John Preyer.

However, in January, a new policy change in the state of North Carolina adds a wrinkle to any realignment. The UNC System Board of Governors voted to give the system president and itself final authority over a school changing conferences. The policy now requires the school chancellor to provide notice and a financial plan for a school’s potential conference exit.

The Board of Governors has authority over both North Carolina and NC State. Does this mean NC State and UNC are a package deal if they are to leave the ACC? Perhaps.

North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper believes the two should not compete in separate conferences.

“I would hope that would not happen and that would not be good for our state,” he said earlier this year.

The Tar Heels remain the lynchpin to the ACC’s future. They are a charter member of the conference, reside in its geographic center, boast an impressive academic reputation and are arguably the conference’s most valuable brand, from both a football and basketball perspective as well as Olympic sports.

What do ESPN and Fox do?

Whether ESPN likes it or not, it is tied up and tangled in this mess.

Not only is it the sole rights holder for the ACC but it is also the sole rights holder for the SEC and it is the sole rights holder of the College Football Playoff. Meanwhile, the network has plenty of other properties and it is expected to bid soon on those, such as the NBA, for instance.

Fox and ESPN each own a stake in the Big 12, and Fox is the primary rights holder in the Big Ten. The two networks have seemingly been engrossed in a fistfight over college football properties, much of it resulting in the most significant conference realignment wave in the industry’s history.

Will they continue to wage war over the most valuable properties in college athletics? There are only a handful left outside of the Big Ten and SEC.

The networks hold the keys because they hold the money. Football-related TV distribution is the primary revenue driver for most major college athletic departments.

For instance, Big Ten administrators, originally against expanding a second time, eventually approved the addition of Washington and Oregon after Fox provided an extra $60 million-$70 million annually for the two schools. In the SEC, the additions of Oklahoma and Texas significantly increased ESPN’s stock of valuable teams and will, eventually, see the two programs earn a pro-rata share ($60 million-plus each annually).

If Fox and ESPN will foot the bill to add FSU and Clemson — or any others — maybe it happens. But first, the ACC schools must wiggle free of what many believe is a binding agreement.

A second program in three months took a step down that path.

To use a somewhat tired analogy, the FSU and Clemson ships have untethered from the ACC port and shoved off into the ocean. There’s no turning back now.

“But where do they go?” asked one industry source.

“They have to have something,” said another.

Does one untie from a secure place without an agreement to be welcomed into another?

Before leaping to conclusions about the SEC and Big Ten’s interest in the Noles and Tigers, let’s visit several other paths in which the two schools could find a more suitable home.

(1) Complete ACC implosion. For the most part, the league is held together by the deal with ESPN. There are largely two ways that ESPN itself could set fire to the contract: If the league drops below the requisite 15-member threshold; or if ESPN elects next February to decline to opt into the final nine years of a contract that extends through 2036.

If ESPN ends the deal or if FSU and Clemson are successful in setting precedent in exiting the grant of rights, the ACC will be much like the Pac-12, with many of its members left desperate and searching for homes as its more valuable schools either coalesce or join other conferences.

In this scenario, eight to 10 of the programs could reform the ACC into a smaller and more valuable conference — a curing of the league and one of the topics discussed among the seven last spring.

Such a move could, conceivably, leave a handful of basketball powers (Louisville and Duke, specifically) to be poached by the country’s most valuable basketball conference and its aggressive commissioner: the Big 12 and Brett Yormark.

(2) A sweeping college athletics landscape shakeup. College athletics is at a time of unprecedented change, much of it attributed to an athletes rights movement around directly paying major college football and basketball players.

A pay-for-play system is on the horizon and so maybe, too, is a complete separation from those programs that can afford to pay their athletes directly and those schools that cannot or choose not to do so. It’s been no secret: the SEC and Big Ten, as well as the NCAA, are exploring new athlete compensation models in an effort to potentially settle the House antitrust case.

Such a new model could bring an overhaul to the entire conference landscape of the sport. Could such an overhaul impact television contracts and disrupt conferences all together?
 
Well, yeah, Wente is interested in honoring Wellman and:

We will use a process that is different from any Wake Forest has used in the past. Instead of engaging in strategic planning – which can too easily turn into generating lists of things to do — we will focus on framing a strategy to accomplish our vision and goals together. We must determine the right things to do, and not do, in order to deliver on our mission while navigating complex and challenging times.

I like doing things, acting and accomplishing things (making the NCAAT).

Wente is committed to framing a strategy (a path?) and navigating. And then eventually, we do things?
Yep. Think Wake's reliance on Academics running the university is not a good choice. They come up with some BS statements that hypothetically make them sound good while in reality doing nothing to help anybody.

I tend to think 2&2 is right that in this current unstable time when you never know when the rug will be pulled out from under you, a school like Wake needs to have an incredibly short leash on coaches. You never know when the music might stop, and I think the success of our football and basketball program at that time will be paramount in us falling somewhere within: a) somehow finding our way into one of the remaining "power conference(s)" b) forming some lesser, but still competitive league with the likes of Duke, VT, GT, etc. c) Playing the likes of JMU, App, Richmond, Davidson in conference every year. Sadly, with our current product, it's hard to imagine anything other than option C.
 
Clemson filing suit against the ACC, months after FSU, is a pretty clear sign that the massive exit fee isn’t going to stand up to scrutiny, IMO.
I disagree. It's just trying to put more pressure on the ACC to cave. I don't think legally Clemson or FSU have figured a way out. The timing almost entirely has to do with the new ESPN CFP deal that was just struck days ago that had the BIG 10 and SEC making millions more per year than the ACC, which was in third. They're just hoping that forcing the ACC to defend two separate cases in two different venues will start putting cracks in the dam to force the ACC to negotiate.
 
Clemson and FSU could probably settle today and pay $250-300M each, but at this point everything to do with the future of the ACC hinges on UNC.

If the goats decide to bolt, the exit fees likely go down dramatically and it’s over either way.

The best thing going for us is the fact that UNC has never fully committed to football, and that their main rival has an even worse football program. Duke won’t get a seat at the real big table. Can UNC stomach playing Duke at most 1x per year in hoops while being “just another state school” in one of these mega conferences?

UNC has always been the most powerful of the ACC schools but now they have all the power. Do they want to keep that power, or trade it in for more money (at least in the short term)?

That is the only question that is really important now.
 
Yep. Think Wake's reliance on Academics running the university is not a good choice. They come up with some BS statements that hypothetically make them sound good while in reality doing nothing to help anybody.

I tend to think 2&2 is right that in this current unstable time when you never know when the rug will be pulled out from under you, a school like Wake needs to have an incredibly short leash on coaches. You never know when the music might stop, and I think the success of our football and basketball program at that time will be paramount in us falling somewhere within: a) somehow finding our way into one of the remaining "power conference(s)" b) forming some lesser, but still competitive league with the likes of Duke, VT, GT, etc. c) Playing the likes of JMU, App, Richmond, Davidson in conference every year. Sadly, with our current product, it's hard to imagine anything other than option C.
It’s an academic institution. Why wouldn’t academics be in charge of it?
 
It’s an academic institution. Why wouldn’t academics be in charge of it?
Sorry I meant academics as in people who have largely worked in academia, not academics in terms of prioritizing education for students.
 
I feel like you think you’re making sense right now.

What is a university if not “academia”?
I mean you don't need to have somebody whose background is in academics running the university. I would think that in this current environment somebody who has a business executive background, for example, would be better at handling the changing landscape in academics and athletics better than somebody who's main focus and experience is in biochemistry.
 
I mean you don't need to have somebody whose background is in academics running the university. I would think that in this current environment somebody who has a business executive background, for example, would be better at handling the changing landscape in academics and athletics better than somebody who's main focus and experience is in biochemistry.
What is the goal of a university? Profit optimization? Media exposure?
 
Clemson filing suit against the ACC, months after FSU, is a pretty clear sign that the massive exit fee isn’t going to stand up to scrutiny, IMO.
The exit fee isn't really that massive, first of all. It is what, like $130M, or $150M - I don't remember the exact number. That is likely in line with what the exit would cost the conference. It is completely reasonable.
Second, someone filing suit doesn't really indicate anything about the actual strength of their case. People file BS cases all the time for all kinds of reasons - in this case perceived leverage would be the main reason.

I think Clemson's case has a bit more merit than FSU's because it at least raises some interesting issues that depend on what is in the ESPN agreement and whether that agreement continues. FSU's case, as I understand it, appears dead in the water from a legal argument standpoint.
 
I think people are over complicating this conference affiliation issue in regards to power/prestige, etc. As far as I can see, this is all about money and the importance of being included in the tier of elite athletic programs. Flagship athletics programs like Carolina have massive athletics budgets that barely break even (139 million in 2022) and the prestige of their university is absolutely tied to championship level athletics.

For Carolina, 34 million dollars of their athletics budget came from media rights, 26 million of which is directly attributed to Football. 8 million of their athletics revenue came from their bowl game.

Now you have to consider how conference affiliation affects ticket sales, licensing, advertisement, and athletics contributions.

No matter how important ACC tradition is, or how much power they have over this conference, if a program has to choose between joining the SEC for 50 million a year or going down with the ship in the ACC, they are going to leave instead of cutting their athletics budget by 25 million dollars
 
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