ImTheCaptain
I disagree with you
im not even following your thought process with that sentence
I love america and generally don't have a feeling of "positive" or "negative" about history b/c I think that's a dumb way to look at it. I'm just wondering if we can get some examples of our history that we should describe as "noble".
I like that last paragraph Townie.
Basically, hey we did some really cool stuff but lets not start celebrating because we also did some horrendous shit. I just don't think it hurts to have a 16 year old leave Junior year thinking America is a inherently good place or at least means well but we've got to learn from our past/current sins.
im not even following your thought process with that sentence
I mean method of pedagogy, not subject matter. You really don't understand the difference?
I'm not talking about which textbooks to teach from. I basically think that we should almost entirely eliminate textbooks from primary education. I'm talking about how you teach, moving away from "turn to page X in book y and let's look at problem z" and towards consensus building, Socratic method, discussion forum. Problem-based learning can also work outside of the repetitive and boring ways that they're forced to be done when you're teaching to a test. Ultimately, when teachers are allowed to come up with inventive ways to teach kids themselves, they often do a really, really good job of it. When they're forced to go through the motions, they aren't into it and neither are the kids.
Not one word of that paragraph has to do with the subject matter being taught.
I typed out a really long answer but then realized that it would just be dismissed as anecdotes, so I won't bother.
I mean method of pedagogy, not subject matter. You really don't understand the difference?
I'm not talking about which textbooks to teach from. I basically think that we should almost entirely eliminate textbooks from primary education. I'm talking about how you teach, moving away from "turn to page X in book y and let's look at problem z" and towards consensus building, Socratic method, discussion forum. Problem-based learning can also work outside of the repetitive and boring ways that they're forced to be done when you're teaching to a test. Ultimately, when teachers are allowed to come up with inventive ways to teach kids themselves, they often do a really, really good job of it. When they're forced to go through the motions, they aren't into it and neither are the kids.
Not one word of that paragraph has to do with the subject matter being taught.
"Yes, we practice slavery. But we also ended it voluntarily" WITH A GUN!
It probably comes from the same nonsense American education system that teaches that Anne Frank thought "people are inherently good," which is a blatantly fraudulent distortion of her original writing.
Public ed and higher learning has been the domain of the Left for decades.
Public ed and higher learning has been the domain of the Left for decades.
Since ITC effectively rustled my jimmies with that .gif, I'll make my point briefly. Touring schools for my kids, I notice a lot of the charter schools try to differentiate themselves from the traditional public/private schools by going down the road of consensus building, socratic, discussion focus, etc., which sounds great in theory. But with respect to math and science at their basic levels, no matter how you want to dress it up with consensus building and hugs, it comes down to a shit ton of memorization. And there is no way around that. So while I know that the millennial approach is to tailor everything to each individual student, but for some extremely important things you just have to park your ass in the chair and memorize it. And if you aren't teaching it that way, then in effect you aren't teaching that subject matter because those building blocks get lost.
Public ed and higher learning has been the domain of the Left for decades.
Since ITC effectively rustled my jimmies with that .gif, I'll make my point briefly. Touring schools for my kids, I notice a lot of the charter schools try to differentiate themselves from the traditional public/private schools by going down the road of consensus building, socratic, discussion focus, etc., which sounds great in theory. But with respect to math and science at their basic levels, no matter how you want to dress it up with consensus building and hugs, it comes down to a shit ton of memorization. And there is no way around that. So while I know that the millennial approach is to tailor everything to each individual student, but for some extremely important things you just have to park your ass in the chair and memorize it. And if you aren't teaching it that way, then in effect you aren't teaching that subject matter because those building blocks get lost.