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Coronavirus !!! Very Political Thread !!!

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PhDeac said:
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Lol


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It's not the lockdowns killing the economy, it's the virus

 
Yeah turns out that trying to sustain the economy on a loud vocal minority of MAGA science denying rubes is a bad idea that just spreads the virus and prolongs economic disaster.
 
Seems our political structure fosters short-term, power grubbing, thinking.


Trump and the Trumpublicans are just some of the worst manifestations.
 
...but not always or invariably.

Ya think we might be able to do collectively better than we are?


Answer: of course.
 
ConnorEl said:
...but not always or invariably.

Ya think we might be able to do collectively better than we are?


Answer: of course.
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We once did. The Marshall Plan and the interstate highway system were examples of long term strategic thinking and spending. But now we have a completely dysfunctional federal government. I've found myself wanting the feds to do less and leave more to the states given that I live in a fairly well run state.
 
harmoniousmonk said:
how's that state by state hodgepodge working out with coronavirus?
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Would have been better had the FDA and CDC told research hospitals like UVA, UMd and Hopkins back in February that the feds didn't have this 1 so that the research hospitals could have had a quicker start on test development. And it's working pretty well in VA where we have a doc who is a governor, and we have the new daily numbers under control due to the gradual lessening of restrictions. Not working so well for the states with Trumpite governors who basically encouraged the free for alls. But it's not like the feds have done much of anything other than steal Charlie Baker's PPE supplies.

The other area I'd love the feds to back off on is drug prosecutions. We're paying for bloated US attorney, public defender offices and federal penitentiaries to prosecute what are already state crimes just so we can give defendants greatly enhanced sentences which cost the taxpayer $50K/yr to incarcerate that 1 defendant in addition to the cost of the prosecution.
 
Comprehensive account of the administration's failures on Covid (so far), in an easy to read format (thanks James Fallows - great writer): https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/how-white-house-coronavirus-response-went-wrong/613591/

Anything that Barack Obama had recommended, Donald Trump was predisposed to ignore. Of the many lies Trump and his defenders have spun, none is more flatly false than the claim, as stated by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in May, that the Obama administration “did not leave … any kind of game plan for something like this.”

In response to McConnell’s claim, Ron Klain tweeted about the official pandemic playbook left for Obama’s successors. McConnell, surprisingly, retracted his statement—but the White House spokesperson, Kayleigh McEnany, then claimed that whatever “thin packet of paper” Obama had left was inferior to a replacement that the Trump administration had supposedly cooked up, but which has never been made public. The 69-page, single-spaced Obama-administration document is officially called “Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents” and is freely available online. It describes exactly what the Trump team was determined not to do.

What I found remarkable was how closely the Obama administration’s recommendations tracked with those set out 10 years earlier by the George W. Bush administration, in response to its chastening experience with bird flu. The Bush-era work, called “National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza” and publicly available here, differs from the Obama-era playbook mainly in the simpler forms of technology on which it could draw. But the premises, recommendations, and warnings are fundamentally similar in each—and at complete odds with the “let’s just ignore it” nature of the Trump administration’s response.

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Over nearly two decades, the U.S. government had assembled the people, the plans, the connections, and the know-how to spare this nation the worst effects of the next viral mutation that would, someday, arise. That someday came, and every bit of the planning was for naught. The deaths, the devastation, the unforeseeable path ahead—they did not have to occur.
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The irony is that it's nearly a truism for Trump: Just do the opposite of whatever he said/did and you'll be almost certain to be moving in a good direction.


Thx Republicans.
 
there was a time when the flu was a bigger threat

also, Trump points to his "travel ban" as the biggest step he took to fight this. he's done fuck all otherwise.
 
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