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CROOKED Hilary

Wrangor said:
What happened to this thread...
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simosfrostyone said:
History as you revise it maybe. Not, like, real history.
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How so? As measured by stock returns, Wall Street has fared much better under Dems than Pubs (by about 50%)... we can debate causal factors but the idea would be if income stratification exists in political constituents, this would favor republicans more than democrats, PLUS under Dems we expand entitlements or "handouts" such that it benefits the "poor"... as a registered republican, I fared much better under the stock market run-up during the Clinton Admin than the $300 bucks I got from GW... again "anecdotal" and not causal...
 
WPDeac said:
How so? As measured by stock returns, Wall Street has fared much better under Dems than Pubs (by about 50%)... we can debate causal factors but the idea would be if income stratification exists in political constituents, this would favor republicans more than democrats, PLUS under Dems we expand entitlements or "handouts" such that it benefits the "poor"... as a registered republican, I fared much better under the stock market run-up during the Clinton Admin than the $300 bucks I got from GW... again "anecdotal" and not causal...
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"benefits"
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
The answer you will receive is: stay in school, don't have kids as a teen, and be a two-parent household. Oh and "accept responsibility for your own community before asking others to help"
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the first 3 things you listed.
 
jhmd2000 said:
"benefits"
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Everytime I see this line of reasoning I think of Judge Smails in Caddyshack.....

"I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them"
 
Why are young Dems able to see through the Clinton fraudulence with such clarity, and old Dems are either settling or (gasp) actually falling for it? What is Hillary's appeal to old Dems (when contrasted with the Berning)?
 
pragmatism, or the lip service thereof

it's the only reason I consider voting for her
 
ImTheCaptain said:
pragmatism, or the lip service thereof

it's the only reason I consider voting for her
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Okay, that's what I suspected, but is there a tipping point? What has Bernie got to do to (I assume even a blow out win in New Hampshire won't move the needle) to earn the benefit of the doubt? If he can stay in contact in South Cack, does he grow the legs to stay with her? He was fantastic last night in the CNN pep rally. I don't think Team Hilldawg benefits from being tested by someone who isn't lying very often.
 
I dunno, the 'unelectable' drum will get beaten louder and louder. I don't think the older dems who are more scared of the word 'socialist' will ever buy in
 
jhmd2000 said:
Okay, that's what I suspected, but is there a tipping point? What has Bernie got to do to (I assume even a blow out win in New Hampshire won't move the needle) to earn the benefit of the doubt? If he can stay in contact in South Cack, does he grow the legs to stay with her? He was fantastic last night in the CNN pep rally. I don't think Team Hilldawg benefits from being tested by someone who isn't lying very often.
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If I was an R, I would love having Sanders be the D nominee too. It's very high risk low reward for the Ds. If by some act of god he won, he doesn't even have support for his policy objectives among the mainstream in his own party, and he would likely lose and lose big.
 
jhmd2000 said:
Why are young Dems able to see through the Clinton fraudulence with such clarity, and old Dems are either settling or (gasp) actually falling for it? What is Hillary's appeal to old Dems (when contrasted with the Berning)?
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It's the red-baiting.

ChrisL68 said:
If I was an R, I would love having Sanders be the D nominee too. It's very high risk low reward for the Ds. If by some act of god he won, he doesn't even have support for his policy objectives among the mainstream in his own party, and he would likely lose and lose big.
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Or, like his track record as Mayor suggests, he'd do a good job as executive and drive his opponents out of the legislature in the next election, at which point the Socialism gets rolling along.
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
Or, like his track record as Mayor suggests, he'd do a good job as executive and drive his opponents out of the legislature in the next election, at which point the Socialism gets rolling along.
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ChrisL68 said:
If I was an R, I would love having Sanders be the D nominee too. It's very high risk low reward for the Ds. If by some act of god he won, he doesn't even have support for his policy objectives among the mainstream in his own party, and he would likely lose and lose big.
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No matter who is in the office, I always prefer someone credible and authentic to the alternative. I don't agree with Sanders on very many things, but his candor is what we should all expect from our politicians. The first kid out of the gate last night asked him if he would raise his taxes, making $41,000.00 per year, and Bernie promised him that he would, and then explained why it would benefit him. Hillary, by contrast, is the political world's answer to Ron Wellman. Whatever you want to hear, she "couldn't be happier" to tell you she believes it.
 
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