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How Lowe can we go?
Again, Manning did a great job with the incoming class. He’s brought talent to Wake we didn’t have with the previous coach. He had the misfortune of his best player leaving after two years, and another critical piece leaving unexpectedly. I was wrong about how big of a loss Dinos was. Dead wrong, and I don’t mind admitting it. I’d like to see what happens next year. If it doesn’t go well- and with Sarr Brown Mucius and Hoard I expect being in the NCAA tournament and very competitive in the ACC- it’s time to go. I like Pat Kelsey.
^ you guys are high if you think we are making the tournament next year. Look at Chaundee - he is totally lost out there. You think more freshman are the (immediate) answer? We’re a couple years away at best
I agree with all of this. We’re severely missing a wing and we’re getting two in Hoard and Mucius next year. I don’t know what has happened to our shot making ability but it’s completely gone. Our guards just are not good enough to carry the team. Moore and Sarr have come along really nicely, and I think will make a good team with Hoard, Chaundee, and Crawford/Chill. That gives you five players who can actually play both offense and defense. If Manning cannot succeed with next years team then he should go. We should not have any gaping holes in our lineups next season like we do right now.
How Lowe can we go?
Yep, we all were wrong about how big a loss Dinos was- this team needs some upper class leadership to close out games.... and we have none.
We all should be excited about the freshmen/incoming freshmen’s potential, but your post above is just based on that, potential. Sarr and Brown haven’t shown they are/can be top-half ACC level starters, and Hoard isn’t a particularly good shooter, which is a pretty key part of the game (I think). It’s wild to think of Moore as our most legit ACC-level player at his position, but he is IMHO.
We all should be excited about the freshmen/incoming freshmen’s potential, but your post above is just based on that, potential. Sarr and Brown haven’t shown they are/can be top-half ACC level starters, and Hoard isn’t a particularly good shooter, which is a pretty key part of the game (I think). It’s wild to think of Moore as our most legit ACC-level player at his position, but he is IMHO.
I actually think it’s pretty simple. We were a really good shooting team last year because teams had to respect our inside game. Woods and Arians feasted on soft defenses guarding the post and passes inside. We have no inside threat now. I know people harp on feeding Moore, but if I’m coaching against us I’d let us do that. As long as he’s not getting lobs, I’ll live with it.
Next year, assuming we get improvement from Sarr, that will change. But even if it doesn’t, teams will have to respect the driving ability of our wings, and that should open things up some outside. Woods is a nasty set shooter, and I think Brown can be too. I expect a very different team next year. And hey, if I’m wrong, I’m on the record that it’s time to go a new direction.
I don't give two fucks. Don't want to read it on a sports board.
While I agree with a lot of what you said, I think you're totally wrong about Moore's post up game. Moore is definitely a threat in the post. He's drawing occasional double teams. Like Collins last year, he needs to learn how to effectively pass out of the double team. He's already shown improvement this year. He makes his hook shot at an impressive rate. He'll never have footwork and moves like Collins with his back to the basket but his length makes him unblockable if gets it in position. He's improved there a lot too since the start of the season. His durability issues are mostly laid to rest. I expect a lot out of him next year and Sarr should step up too.
Our problem will again be TOs, Crawford playing under control, improving our length on defense and getting production on both ends out of the SF position.
Hopefully Manning will get better too. I thought his subs were better today and he did sub out JC after a dumb TO.