Tobacco Road
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White conservative dudes are so persecuted. They are the real victims. They must flee the tunnels for safer ground.
Me: "Minneapolis gunshot injuries are up 250% year over year. Are we sure this defund/depolice isn't backfiring and hurting the people it was supposed to help?"
Someone who wasn't up for an uncomfortable conversation:
jh is a skilled debater because he slyly pushes conversations away from their substance by responding to a small piece of larger argument, often not in good faith, and then people engage on that
THIS IS EXACTLY THE DEFINITION OF A STRAWMAN ARGUMENT!
take note people. What y'all are usually looking for is "red herring"
I'm curious where jhmd is articulating his own discomfort from these uncomfortable conversations, because I am missing it
his lack of response to any data beyond the municipal during crises may be too uncomfortable
I'm uncomfortable with violent crime reversing decades-long downward trends and hitting 25 year highs across the country. I'm not sure the police reforms are going so well. You guys don't seem to have any questions.
What reforms?
I'm uncomfortable with violent crime reversing decades-long downward trends and hitting 25 year highs across the country. I'm not sure the police reforms are going so well. You guys don't seem to have any questions.
As far as I know, there ain’t many (1-3?) abolitionists hereabouts.
Right, and nobody takes them seriously.
the idea that there is homogeneity of thought here is just absurd -- you have your LKs and biffs who think abolition is the dumbest thing they've ever heard, your chrisL reform cheerleaders, you mhb abolitionist true believers, your abolition-curious, police-skeptics, and so on
it's true that we don't have many true facists outside the sailors and brads, but they don't even take themselves seriously
lol all three examples he just posted are reforms to be implemented after the reported rises in murder rates. AT THE TOP OF HIS GAME FOLKS.
All three departments cut staff in 2020.
“There is a means of trying to minimize the impact of 350 fewer people, but there are 350 fewer people,” he told the commission.
Los Angeles slashed its police budget by $150 million last summer, eliminating about 200 officer positions and redirecting funds to programs for communities of color. Murders and shootings spiked in the second half of 2020 and have remained elevated through the start of 2021.
If you can't figure out that less policemen in real time is a real-time cut, I don't know how to help you. You guys care about this problem, right?
All three departments cut staff in 2020.
“There is a means of trying to minimize the impact of 350 fewer people, but there are 350 fewer people,” he told the commission.
Los Angeles slashed its police budget by $150 million last summer, eliminating about 200 officer positions and redirecting funds to programs for communities of color. Murders and shootings spiked in the second half of 2020 and have remained elevated through the start of 2021.
If you can't figure out that less policemen in real time is a real-time cut, I don't know how to help you. You guys care about this problem, right?