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F is for Fascism (Ferguson MO)

Violent crime in America is positively correlated with the number of Republican appointed justices in the Supreme Court!
 
WokeandBroke said:
If interdicting homicides in progress is off the table, you've already lost.
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Yes, because suggesting that police should maybe first try their taser before shooting a teenager to death means we are actually taking interdicting in a homicide in progress off the table. Your argument is lost.
 
birdman said:
Yes, because suggesting that police should maybe first try their taser before shooting a teenager to death means we are actually taking interdicting in a homicide in progress off the table. Your argument is lost.
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If someone is in the process of stabbing another person, you have to allocate risk. If the assailant is using deadly force and disregarding commands to cease, are you willing to risk the victim's life to give the assailant a third chance to comply?
 
trying to have an actual good faith discussion w/ jhmd is a fucking fool's errand but god bless y'all for trying.
 
It’s kind of like arguing with RJ, after a while you know his shtick and you just get tired of his shit.

Unfortunately his style of bad faith argument is the entire Republican platform these days.

Person: here’s something not working well, let’s talk about fixing it
GOP: oh so now you hate America well get out

Idiots
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
jh is a skilled debater because he slyly pushes conversations away from their substance by responding to a small piece of larger argument, often not in good faith, and then people engage on that

but it doesn't go unnoticed by anyone who is paying attention and if it continues then there is really no reason to engage at all

it isn't discomfort, it is simply a rationale response
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His gish gallop style might work on some college kid like Ben Shapiro but unfortunately for him this is all in writing so anyone can clearly follow the leaps in logic.

How’d this start anyway? Oh yeah a bunch of cops murdered a guy with his hands on the steering wheel and jh thinks that’s too uncomfortable to discuss.
 
WokeandBroke said:
If someone is in the process of stabbing another person, you have to allocate risk. If the assailant is using deadly force and disregarding commands to cease, are you willing to risk the victim's life to give the assailant a third chance to comply?
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Why don’t the democRATS care about stabbing victims?!?!
 
birdman said:
Violent crime in America is positively correlated with the number of Republican appointed justices in the Supreme Court!
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06deacon said:
His gish gallop style might work on some college kid like Ben Shapiro but unfortunately for him this is all in writing so anyone can clearly follow the leaps in logic.

How’d this start anyway? Oh yeah a bunch of cops murdered a guy with his hands on the steering wheel and jh thinks that’s too uncomfortable to discuss.
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Are we sure he wasn’t about to stab someone?
 
WokeandBroke said:
I know you don't want to hear it, but that doesn't mean it isn't obviously true. This place's record speaks for itself. The audience of people who disagree with you guys left one by one (because of your overwhelming arguments, of course. That's definitely the only reason).
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Bigots don’t like being called out for being racists and homophobic. They’d rather go somewhere that supports their ignorant beliefs. Where did you go?
 
Deacon923 said:
I'm not sure where I saw it, but I read an article recently where some policing experts and academics were talking about the relationship between heavy policing, crime rates, and the recent rise in crime that has jhmd so worried about his fellow man in Chicago. The overall point in the article is that it seems to be possible to drive down crime through oppressive policing, incarceration, state violence, etc. - temporarily. At some point, the excesses of the police state erode the support of the population to the point that they stop cooperating. At that point, crime/violence starts to go up, and in some places can spiral out of control. Police effectiveness at reducing crime depends in large part on society's willingness to cooperate and help the police. Once generations of police misconduct destroys community trust, it's really hard to get back to a situation where communities and police are cooperating again. What the jhmds of the world don't, or won't, recognize is that this is a two way street. The police and their supporters cannot expect to just keep on doing the same hyper-militarized aggressive policing that has got us to this point, and just demand that the communities they police get on board with the program.
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I think we know where you saw it, and it wasn't The Pacific
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
the idea that there is homogeneity of thought here is just absurd -- you have your LKs and biffs who think abolition is the dumbest thing they've ever heard, your chrisL reform cheerleaders, you mhb abolitionist true believers, your abolition-curious, police-skeptics, and so on

it's true that we don't have many true facists outside the sailors and brads, but they don't even take themselves seriously
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An elevator full of people who can't agree upon which tax to raise first?

The left: DIVERSITY OF OPINION!
 
Me: "Minneapolis gunshot injuries are up 250% year over year. Are we sure this defund/depolice isn't backfiring and hurting the people it was supposed to help?"

Someone who wasn't up for an uncomfortable conversation:

Tobacco Road said:
Bigots don’t like being called out for being racists and homophobic. They’d rather go somewhere that supports their ignorant beliefs. Where did you go?
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