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FBI tapping all Verizon calls

From a 2006 USA Today article:


The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY. The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime.

"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added. For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others.


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
 
Stop having phone sex with your sister-in-law and you won't have to worry.
 
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And let's not forget NSA's new huge multi-billion dollar Utah Spy Center set to open in September. It's super computers will record and analyze every communication and purchase you make. If this doesn't bother you...



Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.



http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/
 
Scary shit.

Between the war on drugs, the war on terror, and Google and Facebook taking over the world, I am not sure we're going to have any real civil liberties protections left in a few years. It won't make one bit of difference which party is in power, either.

Except we'll still have the right to have all the guns we want. The gun-hoarders will think this means they actually still have liberty, but when the government can find out everything it wants to know about you from a DNA swab and tracking your phone and drone your ass from 10,000 feet, your concealed carry permit and collection of Bushmasters ain't gonna mean shit.
 
Total bullshit. Fuck Obama for doing this.

Time to start thinking about getting off the grid. My brother has a piece of land out near Moab with a stream, some dirt bikes....
 
Deacon923 said:
Scary shit.

Between the war on drugs, the war on terror, and Google and Facebook taking over the world, I am not sure we're going to have any real civil liberties protections left in a few years. It won't make one bit of difference which party is in power, either.

Except we'll still have the right to have all the guns we want. The gun-hoarders will think this means they actually still have liberty, but when the government can find out everything it wants to know about you from a DNA swab and tracking your phone and drone your ass from 10,000 feet, your concealed carry permit and collection of Bushmasters ain't gonna mean shit.
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Julian Assange provided the opinion piece in last weekends New York Times....pretty chilling assessment of Google and its drive for technological imperialism.

Couldn't directly link to NYT site :

excerpts :http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...Without-Secrets-The-Banality-of-Don-t-Be-Evil
 
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Link?
 
Such a red state. They can't be happy about Obama parking his Gestapo machine in their backyard.
 
Junebug said:
Back to the issue, is anyone on the board going to try to defend this?
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That's just it: no one is or can defend it. You knee-jerks just get all pissed off about the facts behind the situation.
 
It should have never been passed and any effort to take it away would be filibustered. Once it was passed this became inevitable. It sucks, but it's true.

What should be illegal is for stores, banks and credit card companies from compiling and selling your data. In CA you can opt out, but I don't trust that either.
 
WakeandBake said:
Total bullshit. Fuck Obama for doing this.

Time to start thinking about getting off the grid. My brother has a piece of land out near Moab with a stream, some dirt bikes....
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If you want to truly go off the grid, you may want to consider a means of transportation that doesn't require a refined fossil fuel. Hope you enjoy horseback riding.
 
SkinsNDeacs said:
Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

Just like Republicans are full of shit when they talk about fiscal conservativeism so are Democrats when they talk about civil liberties. Fucking hypocrites...all of them.
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Yup. Pretty much my thoughts. Bunch of bullshit.
 
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