All aboard the Bernie Sanders Train, toot mothafuckin toot
First stop European malaise. Last stop Greece. All aboard, no tickets required, just climb aboard.
All aboard the Bernie Sanders Train, toot mothafuckin toot
Free bootstraps!?First stop European malaise. Last stop Greece. All aboard, no tickets required, just climb aboard.
I mean David Petraeus got into some serious trouble for stuff like this and he was an America icon before he got caught.
I mean David Petraeus got into some serious trouble for stuff like this and he was an America icon before he got caught.
What trouble?!?!?! He's on PROBATION For leaking AGENTS' IDENTITIES to HIS MISTRESS in exchange for BLOWJOBS. He is in nothing approaching serious trouble, let alone trouble commensurate with how recklessly he acted.
Regardless of the specifics, probation is not a bad outcome for committing borderline, if not actual, treason.So if he was on probation was he convicted of something?
So if he was on probation was he convicted of something?
Regardless of the specifics, probation is not a bad outcome for committing borderline, if not actual, treason.
What exactly do you call what he did, then?Not treason
So he'll have to check a box before giving 5- or 6-figure paid speeches? And, against all reason, apparently still is dealing with sensitive information?
My contention is that what Petraeus has undergone is not really trouble, and certainly is not serious trouble.
What exactly do you call what he did, then?
He was boasting about his credentials to impress his girl iirc, but disclosing classified intel to civilians without clearance strikes me as treasonous behavior.
Right but my point is that if HRC were found to be guilty of the same offense it should kill her candidacy.
I'm not saying the situation is totally analogous but it's also not a non issue. And in full disclosure, I would probably vote HRC over 95% of the GOP field right now.
I call it recklessness and terrible information security.
I'm not opposed to killing HRC's candidacy (President Sanders!) but I don't think the two situations are especially similar. Petraeus shared extremely sensitive information with someone who wasn't authorized to have it in exchange for BJs. In addition, the adultery made him vulnerable to counter-intelligence. All around terrible for a CIA Director. There isn't anything approaching a benign explanation for any part of it.
Clinton set up a private email server, like previous Secretaries of State, to hide from FOIA requests. I dislike that. The press, public, and historians should have access to her emails. But there are many ways of avoiding disclosure, and what one Secretary of State might use private email to hide, another might might conceal by sticking to phones and meetings without minutes.
And the private server may have been vulnerable to foreign hacking (so might State, though). So there's some risk to the security of the information Clinton was dealing with. I don't know whether it's a greater or a lesser risk than using State's emails. But I'm not aware of HRC sending classified information (directly) to people who shouldn't have had it, or compromising herself the way Petraeus did. And for me, those are two huge differences between the two.