jaybone
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not sure what his contract is for, but I think it's 5 years, right? I guess it's possible he has enough success next year to warrant one.
1) Can't recruit -- his three recruits this season aren't exactly tearing it up, but they are freshmen so still too soon to judge them. Which makes it ever further too soon to judge the players coming in next season; one way or the other.
2) Can't win on the road at BCS schools -- Jeff [Redacted]'s away record against BCS conference schools since 2005:
2005/06: 0-2; losses at Washington and Illinois (in the NIT)
2006/07: 2-1; wins at Stanford and Colorado, loss to Duke
2007/08: 0-9; loss to Winsconsin OOC and lost all 8 Big XII road games
2008/09: 0-9; loss to Stanford OOC and lost all 8 Big XII road games
2009/10: 1-8; loss to Oregon St OOC and lost 7 of 8 Big XII road games
2010/11: 0-8; lost all 8 ACC road games
2011/12 (to date): 2-3; wins at Nebraska and BC, losses to Seton Hall, Maryland and Duke
TOTAL: 5-40, .111
3) Can't win on the road in conference -- Jeff [Redacted]'s away record in conference since 2005:
2005/06: 4-4
2006/07: 3-5
2007/08: 0-8
2008/09: 0-8
2009/10: 1-7
2010/11: 0-8
2011/12 (to date): 1-2
TOTAL: 9-42, .176
4) Agreed.
By all means, defend Mr. [Redacted], but I would like to see some statistics that back up such a belief in him.
Trust me, I've searched high and low for them and all I've uncovered is complete dog shit. I hope you have better luck in your searches, assuming you actually have searched/will search for statistical proof that Mr. [Redacted] will become a good head coach here.
Or maybe you like going on blind faith? That's cool too.
As Mark Twain said "there are lies, damn lies and statistics", but here are a few:
50-16 overall record at Air Force
Denver Nuggets improved from 17-65 to 43-39 under him
November 29, 2006 Air Force 94 WFU 58 (road win)
I am sure you will say, "well he got Melo when he was with the Nuggets so you can't attribute all that improvement to Buzz's coaching". I agree, but then you have to look at our roster and what he had at CO when you look at those statistics too.
We'll see what he can do when he gets more talent and depth in next year and our current players get more experienced.
That was not a road win.
As Mark Twain said "there are lies, damn lies and statistics", but here are a few:
50-16 overall record at Air Force
Denver Nuggets improved from 17-65 to 43-39 under him
November 29, 2006 Air Force 94 WFU 58 (road win)
I am sure you will say, "well he got Melo when he was with the Nuggets so you can't attribute all that improvement to Buzz's coaching". I agree, but then you have to look at our roster and what he had at CO when you look at those statistics too.
We'll see what he can do when he gets more talent and depth in next year and our current players get more experienced.
A mediocre 15-12 overall record on the road with Air Force
What was Denver's record the next year before [Redacted] was fired and George Karl turned them around?
You should edit your post to indicate that wasn't a road win. It is also a small sample size, Mr. Wellman.
That many years of coaching and you've managed 3 examples, which are tedious at best. Cling to them for as long as you can, sir.
The 'wait til [Redacted] gets his guys in here' argument is my favorite. He has never stayed at the helm of a college program for longer than three years to get 'his guys' in there. Why will he suddenly change now, with even less success and more pressure as he pushes 60?
Look at how quickly and how often he has bolted to greener pastures in his career. What makes people believe he has even a tiny bit of loyalty to Wake Forest, or anyone for that matter?
Tell me you just did not post this.
Wake Forest > Colorado > Air Force
It's that simple. He left Air Force for a job that was in a major conference, he left Colorado for a job that I would like to view as a destination job. The only programs that should be stealing coaches away from us are the Kentucky's, Kansas' and UCLA's.
and I can guarantee you that those programs aren't going to be calling for Jeff f'n [Redacted].