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Next year’s football team

CreamyGoodness said:
Ellison, Turner, Townes, Claiborne, Cooley

We will be more than fine.
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I don’t think this will hurt us next year but still kind of surprising. He’s from Winston and has been a huge part of our most successful stretch ever. Posted it on the other thread but maybe he just wants a change of scenery.
 
QB and RB seemed like the two positions that were overcrowded going into this offseason, so I'm not surprised to see CBS moving on, although it always stings a bit to see a player as impactful as him finish his career at a different program.

I'm still curious to see which (if any) QB moves on. Maybe all the young guys stick around another year, but I feel like somebody is going to see the writing on the wall that it will be an uphill battle to ever get playing time.
 
deacon14 said:
QB and RB seemed like the two positions that were overcrowded going into this offseason, so I'm not surprised to see CBS moving on, although it always stings a bit to see a player as impactful as him finish his career at a different program.

I'm still curious to see which (if any) QB moves on. Maybe all the young guys stick around another year, but I feel like somebody is going to see the writing on the wall that it will be an uphill battle to ever get playing time.
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At every other school, QBs lead the way to the transfer portal. Other than specialists (K, P, LS), QB is the only position where non-starters never get snaps in competitive game scenarios. As a result, QBs that don't get early PT or have a clear path to play, usually move on pretty quickly. Pretty incredible that WF may have 6 scholarship QBs on the 2022 roster.
 
deacon14 said:
QB and RB seemed like the two positions that were overcrowded going into this offseason, so I'm not surprised to see CBS moving on, although it always stings a bit to see a player as impactful as him finish his career at a different program.

I'm still curious to see which (if any) QB moves on. Maybe all the young guys stick around another year, but I feel like somebody is going to see the writing on the wall that it will be an uphill battle to ever get playing time.
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I think it could depend on how the Spring goes between Kern and Griffis. They seem to be 1A/1B for the backup position right now. Also, Kern’s graduation status could be a factor. Kern was an early enrollee in January 2019 so he just completed his 3rd full year and if you add summer school he could certainly be on track to graduate this summer then be in the portal with 3 years of eligibility left. Would think if he’s that close finishing up the degree takes priority. Spring would also help show Marucci and Edwards where they stand. Wouldn’t expect Griffis to be an option to leave yet with his brother now joining him at Wake. At least one would leave just looking at the numbers I’d think but that may not be until after spring practice.
 
Pilchard said:
At every other school, QBs lead the way to the transfer portal. Other than specialists (K, P, LS), QB is the only position where non-starters never get snaps in competitive game scenarios. As a result, QBs that don't get early PT or have a clear path to play, usually move on pretty quickly. Pretty incredible that WF may have 6 scholarship QBs on the 2022 roster.
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Six QBs does seem like too many.
This may end up as a "staring contest." Who blinks first?

It may last until spring practice. One of the guys should emerge as the heir apparent to Sam.
 
CBS doesn't surprise me, though I thought he may just graduate. Think its good for both he and the team. He had a nice career here, but there is a ton of talent behind him. He can be a good piece of another team and WF will have a lot of competition at a key position.
 
Pilchard said:
At every other school, QBs lead the way to the transfer portal. Other than specialists (K, P, LS), QB is the only position where non-starters never get snaps in competitive game scenarios. As a result, QBs that don't get early PT or have a clear path to play, usually move on pretty quickly. Pretty incredible that WF may have 6 scholarship QBs on the 2022 roster.
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Assuming Hartman will be done after his 5th year, the eligibility remaining of the other guys starting in 2023 would be:

Kern: 2 years of eligibility left (would require 6 years at Wake)
Mitch Griffis: 3 years of eligibility left (would require 6 years at Wake)
Marucci: 3 years of eligibility left
Edwards: 3 years of eligibility left
Brett Griffis: 4 years of eligibility left

I certainly don't intend this post to be speculating on which of these guys will move on, but I feel confident Clawson will encourage one of these guys to do so. Maybe the transfer(s) happen next offseason when the new guy wins the starting job, but realistically only one of those top 4 guys has a chance at being a multi-year starter at QB barring injuries, and I'm sure all of them are aware of that.

The covid redshirt year caused some really interesting scenarios for this position group. As a hypothetical example: Kern could spend 4 years at Wake and get his degree while never starting a game at Wake, then move on and still have 2 years as a starter at a different program.
 
PaddyWF said:
CBS doesn't surprise me, though I thought he may just graduate. Think its good for both he and the team. He had a nice career here, but there is a ton of talent behind him. He can be a good piece of another team and WF will have a lot of competition at a key position.
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yeah, cbs was solid of course but given where we are at from both a scholarship and RB perspective, the biggest place it will hurt is that it will appear that we are losing one more starter even though he only had around 1/4 of our rushing yards.
 
IAppreciateIt said:
yeah, cbs was solid of course but given where we are at from both a scholarship and RB perspective, the biggest place it will hurt is that it will appear that we are losing one more starter even though he only had around 1/4 of our rushing yards.
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Good point. The negative narrative would be "lost all ACC 1000 yard receiver, lost starting RB (leading rusher) lost starting TE, (maybe) lost all-ACC starting left tackle.
 
Deaconblue said:
Good point. The negative narrative would be "lost all ACC 1000 yard receiver, lost starting RB (leading rusher) lost starting TE, (maybe) lost all-ACC starting left tackle.
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ACC media doesn't need reasons like this, they'll pick us somewhere 4th-6th in the Atlantic for the preseason poll regardless. But the actual reasons they will use will have nothing to do with offense, but with the fact that we lose Fox, Masterson, Redd, Kamara, and Taylor off a defense that wasn't even good statistically this year.
 
Zach Tom posted this on Instagram but I have no idea what that hashtag means

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I'll go with "thank you" as the same as goodbye.
 
Clawson said the 2022 team “will have to forge its own identity.”

It clearly was unhelpful losing KWIII in 2021 but we won 11 games anyway. With CBS it is unlikely that his departure makes any major difference in 2022. (Same is true with Q.) CBS’s opt out is nowhere near a “bleak blow to Wake Forest” contrary to the sportscasters at local WXII TV.

I hope CBS has success except if at the expense of the Deacs in a game played.
 
DeacAssured said:
CBS’s opt out is nowhere near a “bleak blow to Wake Forest” contrary to the sportscasters at local WXII.
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Wow, was that really their word choice? Wake really has a local media problem.
 
deachus said:
Wow, was that really their word choice? Wake really has a local media problem.
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WF has a local traditional media problem. It does not have a new age media problem with Les doing amazing work at WF's 247 site plus Rivals hopefully recovering from its past downturn with the previous editor.
 
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