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Next year’s football team

We beat Clemson last year -- in the Atlantic Division standings !!!
 
PhDeac said:
Which made him a shaky co-DC hire after Lambert left for Charlotte.
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Forgot about Billings- he coached WR, S, DE, ST/Co-DC- that’s quite the tour of duty - 4 different positions in 6 seasons. That tells me he was a good coach but clearly didn’t get along with Lobo and was shipped to defense to plug holes.
 
Stability in a coaching staff matters a lot. Is it a secret that the winnigest teams in the ACC are led by the longest tenured coaches. Dabo, Doeren, Clawson. And in that order by tenure.
 
JKW385 said:
Forgot about Billings- he coached WR, S, DE, ST/Co-DC- that’s quite the tour of duty - 4 different positions in 6 seasons. That tells me he was a good coach but clearly didn’t get along with Lobo and was shipped to defense to plug holes.
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Indeed. PhD is picking on the wrong guy here. The problem was Grobe patronizing his Ohio buddies who were in over their head. After Billings had proven himself as highly competent, he likely was offended that Knorr was put on the same pedestal as him. Billings was solid. Knorr not.
 
Billings taught the WR to block, which had been a weak spot. He produced one of my favorite Wake fb memories which was Willie Idelette's crackback block during the ACC championship game. Absolutely leveled the GT player. Billings was highly competent, but was an outsider, not from Grobe's tree. He got tired of the constant favoritism shown to incompetent Grobe groupies.
 
WFU1977 said:
What are you talking about with Billings?. He as an outstanding WR coach and taught them all how to block. He got sick of the Lobo shitshow and patronizing and left.
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The rest of his resume argues against this point a bit.
 
JKW385 said:
There are a lot of defenses with great talent that aren’t nearly as hard as Clemson’s for us. It’s a combination of great players and great coaching that candidly is too hard for us to overcome. Heck, it’s a lot for most teams to overcome considering how few points they have given up last few years.

I’m not naive enough to believe they will be a cake walk and we’ll put up 45 points but we should have more opportunities to out-scheme them, getting them in a favorable match-up without Venables and that highlighter hat and stealing signals. We’re gonna need to guard our playbook for that game like Mr. Beaks handcuffed to the crop report.
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"Looking good, Sam!"
"Feeling good, Coach Clawson!!"
 
Deacfreak07 said:
The rest of his resume argues against this point a bit.
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And 77 doesn’t get the point. Grobe took WR coach who taught WRs how to block but had never been a DC before and made him a co-DC instead of going out and getting an experienced DC to replace Lambert.
 
macktheknife said:
Stability in a coaching staff matters a lot. Is it a secret that the winnigest teams in the ACC are led by the longest tenured coaches. Dabo, Doeren, Clawson. And in that order by tenure.
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Or maybe the best coaches get to keep their job?
 
Quite the varied and nomadic career for Coach Billings:

1980 Duncan HS (OK) (S)
1981 Prairiland HS (TX)
1982–1983 Norman HS (OK) (S)
1983–1984 Missouri (GA)
1985–1986 Oklahoma (GA)
1987–1988 Missouri (TE)
1990–1991 Marshall (DL/ST)
1992–1993 Marshall (TE/LB/ST)
1994–1998 Marshall (DL/ST)
1999 Marshall (DC/LB)
2000–2005 Southeast Missouri State
2006–2007 Wake Forest (WR)
2008–2009 Wake Forest (S)
2010 Wake Forest (DE)
2011 Wake Forest (Co-DC/ST)
2012–2013 Memphis (DL)
2014–2015 North Lamar HS
2016–2020 Southern Miss (AHC/DC/S)
2020 Southern Miss (interim HC)
2022-present Southeast Missouri State (OLB)

Billings is now back at his alma mater, where also was a HC for 7 seasons (SE Missouri State) as the OLB coach. Billings was the 3rd HC at Southern Miss in 2020. Yes, Southern Miss 1st coach Jay Hopson resigned after the first game of the season. Southern Miss hired their OC, Scotty Walden, as interim HC, Walden lasted 4 games, and then he resigned to take the head job at Austin Peay. With limited options, Southern Miss then hired Tim Billings as the interim HC, and Billing led Southern Miss to a 2-3 record to finish the season, including a 45-31 win over Willie Taggart FAU team to close the season.
 
PhDeac said:
And 77 doesn’t get the point. Grobe took WR coach who taught WRs how to block but had never been a DC before and made him a co-DC instead of going out and getting an experienced DC to replace Lambert.
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Billings had prior headcoach experience at a directional school in MO. In any case, I have a soft spot for him as he taught Willie Idelette how to block and his crackback block during the ACC championship game was a thing of beauty and one of my fondest memories of Deacon football.
 
You can give Billings credit for WR coaching duties and helping us win a championship in 2006 and also acknowledge maybe he wasn’t best fit as a DC at a Power 5 school - it’s not a binary system
 
Billings was named the National Defensive Back Coach of the Year in 2008. So it doesn't seem that outlandish. What seems wild is moving him to coach DEs the following year.
 
Billings was the DC at Marshall before he was DC at WF. At one time or another he coached almost every position group. If a coach is smart and experienced, it's not that big of a deal to coach different position groups or go from offense to defense. Clawson was a DB in college. Started as DB coach and then moved over to offense. Better to have a bunch of smart people on your staff that can move to different position groups than only look at a former LB coach to coach LBs.
 
Pilchard said:
Billings was the DC at Marshall before he was DC at WF. At one time or another he coached almost every position group. If a coach is smart and experienced, it's not that big of a deal to coach different position groups or go from offense to defense. Clawson was a DB in college. Started as DB coach and then moved over to offense. Better to have a bunch of smart people on your staff that can move to different position groups than only look at a former LB coach to coach LBs.
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This. Good coaches are good at coaching.
 
Pilchard said:
Billings was the DC at Marshall before he was DC at WF. At one time or another he coached almost every position group. If a coach is smart and experienced, it's not that big of a deal to coach different position groups or go from offense to defense. Clawson was a DB in college. Started as DB coach and then moved over to offense. Better to have a bunch of smart people on your staff that can move to different position groups than only look at a former LB coach to coach LBs.
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Defensive Coordinators have the additional/different task of scheming how to best use all 11 players to accomplish the goal of stopping the other team. This includes choosing the players to be on the field , where they line up and how they should move. Then adjusting the foregoing depending on down, distance, position on the field, time remaining on the clock, game score and personnel on the offense.

IMHO, the coaching skills necessary to create and implement schemes that integrate the actions of all 11 players are different from those needed to teach position groups individual skills.
 
tigerswood said:
They have a never-ending amount of graduate assistants (why is there not a limit on how many staff you can have?). I don't expect the sign stealing to stop, even though Venables is a master at it.

We definitely need to mix in some formations and plays they haven't seen before, and I still think some sort of quick huddle would be effective and eliminate the sign stealing. Muddle huddle, rush to the line, snap the ball before Clemson can adjust to the formation/steal the signs. Worked wonders for Day and tOSU in their last playoff matchup.
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This is what drove me mad last year at Clemson. Clemson clearly new Sam's cadence, and were crashing the line right as the ball hiked in the first 1.5 quarters - racking up 5 or so sacks? Completely rattling Sam. Not one time was the snap count changed, sped up or delayed to stop this. Clemson brought a db/nickel/ almost at the same time as the snap. By the time adjustments were made and Wake began to move the ball, realizing Jaquarii was open on damn near every down - the defense was already too tired from the pillow fight on the other side of ball.
 
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