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Non-Political Coronavirus Thread

too bad the perfect policy president couldn't hack it

non-politically speaking of course
 
Milhouse said:
too bad the perfect policy president couldn't hack it

non-politically speaking of course
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There is not a president in our history that could have mitigated all of the impacts. I agree with you that President Trump hasn't done the best job, but continually laying it at his feet is probably the most unproductive thing that can be done.
 
As soon as it turned political it was over for any cohesion, no coming together after that. Just look at polls about mask wearing, social distancing, etc... Its like if after 9/11 40% of the country believed that it really was a government conspiracy, or after the bombing of pearl harbor 40% shrugged their shoulders and argued Hawaii isn't even a state. In this case its even worse because of all the potential tragedies that could come to the country from war to natural disaster the only one that 100% needs everyone to be on the same page is a pandemic. Management is doable, see other countries.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
There is not a president in our history that could have mitigated all of the impacts. I agree with you that President Trump hasn't done the best job, but continually laying it at his feet is probably the most unproductive thing that can be done.
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donald effing trump called it a hoax from day one. He knew it was not. Had he told the country that it was going to be a tough 2 months of staying home and wearing masks fewer people would be dead and we would be looking at schools opening in person. F him and his dumb mouth breathing supporters who hate expertise, knowledge, and science. Non-politically.
 
ATLDeac said:
So just over 1% of students after a quick Google search shows ~12,500 enrollment at ND between undergrad and grad. Makes sense to shut it all down. Not.
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Seems like shutting it down to get things under control before you have 5% or 10% of the population infected and few dead faculty is the right way to go. The students are not that likely to have severe negative consequences, it's the faculty and staff that are putting their lives on the line.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
There is not a president in our history that could have mitigated all of the impacts. I agree with you that President Trump hasn't done the best job, but continually laying it at his feet is probably the most unproductive thing that can be done.
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No the most unproductive thing that can be done is to do nothing. Like trump. Non politically.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
There is not a president in our history that could have mitigated all of the impacts. I agree with you that President Trump hasn't done the best job, but continually laying it at his feet is probably the most unproductive thing that can be done.
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lol

maybe Trump could have at least gotten one figured out
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
There is not a president in our history that could have mitigated all of the impacts. I agree with you that President Trump hasn't done the best job, but continually laying it at his feet is probably the most unproductive thing that can be done.
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I think there is a non-zero chance that a different president would have not disbanded the pandemic response team, resulting in a vastly better result for the both the US and the rest of the world. Even failing that, we'd be in a far better place wrt protective equipment at least with an administration who began seriously working on it in January. We's also have a more cohesive national message wrt distancing measures or closing things, but that comes with the caveat that the crazier red state would have aggressively defied a shutdown order from a Dem president, especially Hillary. Then again, Kemp, Desantis, et al's current resistance has more to do with protecting the economy for Trump's personal sake, so there is a chance that they would impose even stricter lockdowns and blamed a Dem president for not doing enough.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
The finger pointing doesn't really solve anything. It doesn't change the fact that my daughter's 55 year old Kindergarten teacher has no fucking clue how to run a virtual classroom; let alone do something as send out a group video invite.

We've really lost the ability as a country to carve out points of failure. We've moved to a model that requires so much overhead that it's just not possible to efficiently react to something as cataclysmic as this pandemic.
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Finger pointing doesn't solve anything because those being rightfully blamed won't accept it and make the appropriate changes. You are right that pointing out those mistakes does not change what has already happened, but people are continually making the same mistakes. There are so many points of failure now because of the mistakes made early on. Kindergarten teachers shouldn't have to be responsible for learning how to run a virtual classroom in (let's be generous) four weeks. That isn't supposed to be their job, so yeah, there is a good chance it won't go well. I'm not even sure that there is a right way to run one for Kindergarten. But why is she in that position? Because the schoolboard didn't make plans, despite having the whole summer to do so. And that is because there are enough people in the state government that wanted to hope that Covid wouldn't be a problem in the fall. And that is because there was no concerted Federal response to actually containing the virus, as it was more important to not appear weak and to win the short term PR cycle.

But just because finger pointing doesn't change the past, doesn't mean that it can't change the future. Otherwise, what are we saying? Is everyone giving up? We already shit the bed, so we might as well roll around in it? If behaviors don't change, things cannot recover until there is an effective vaccine. But things can get better before that. People who refuse to mitigate the risk of this virus are the ones holding this back, not the people pointing fingers and saying "What the Hell?!"
 
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Donkey Deac Doug said:
We've really lost the ability as a country to carve out points of failure. We've moved to a model that requires so much overhead that it's just not possible to efficiently react to something as cataclysmic as this pandemic.
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THATS your answer? That the Trump failure was due to...bureaucratic bloat? Not shocking that’s your answer actually. Clueless and low information but not shocking.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
The finger pointing doesn't really solve anything. It doesn't change the fact that my daughter's 55 year old Kindergarten teacher has no fucking clue how to run a virtual classroom; let alone do something as send out a group video invite.

We've really lost the ability as a country to carve out points of failure. We've moved to a model that requires so much overhead that it's just not possible to efficiently react to something as cataclysmic as this pandemic.
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Why hasn't your daughter's 55 year old Kindergarten teacher been in training programs since March to learn how to run a virtual classroom? Why haven't superintendents and Mayors and Governors taken steps to make this work since at least April when we could easily see that this wasn't going to just "go away like a miracle." This is a failure of vision and leadership at all levels of government to accept the reality that our way of life has to, at least temporarily, be disrupted and we need to find new ways and modes of running our systems, like school.
 
deaconson said:
donald effing trump called it a hoax from day one. He knew it was not. Had he told the country that it was going to be a tough 2 months of staying home and wearing masks fewer people would be dead and we would be looking at schools opening in person. F him and his dumb mouth breathing supporters who hate expertise, knowledge, and science. Non-politically.
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Literally all he had to do on Day 1 was to wear a Maga or Punisher mask and boom we're arguing about how many TDs Surrat will have this year.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
There is not a president in our history that could have mitigated all of the impacts. I agree with you that President Trump hasn't done the best job, but continually laying it at his feet is probably the most unproductive thing that can be done.
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iodeac said:
Literally all he had to do on Day 1 was to wear a Maga or Punisher mask and boom we're arguing about how many TDs Surrat will have this year.
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Not to mention lil donnie would be spiking the football after his election day win and crowing about saving us all. Instead, his inaction and lies have us racing towards 200,000 Americans dead with no end in sight.
 
birdman said:
Why hasn't your daughter's 55 year old Kindergarten teacher been in training programs since March to learn how to run a virtual classroom? Why haven't superintendents and Mayors and Governors taken steps to make this work since at least April when we could easily see that this wasn't going to just "go away like a miracle." This is a failure of vision and leadership at all levels of government to accept the reality that our way of life has to, at least temporarily, be disrupted and we need to find new ways and modes of running our systems, like school.
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Over and over again we are finding ourselves as a society coming up to these deadlines like school starting, fall sports starting etc and trying to fucking wing it with a week of effort. We are getting the results we deserve for pretending this shit would magically work itself out and preparing accordingly.

But how could anyone have known how to handle this??? says knight. Well the people whose job it is to know and do something are actively trying to do as little as possible. They’re spending more effort lying to you about what they do than actually doing something. Then we get to school starting and everyone wonders why progress has not magically happened.
 
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