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Official Russian Election Interference Thread

Ok, but the rest of us find you and new England's twitter feed super weird, even weirder when you expect us to know who all these random people are
 
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I mean one of em yesterday retweeted that their scoop Trump would go after mueller in two weeks was from @s3ltron
 
A long but good read from WAPO today. It will make you feel really good about the direction of our country.



"Nearly a year into his presidency, Trump continues to reject the evidence that Russia waged an assault on a pillar of American democracy and supported his run for the White House.

The result is without obvious parallel in U.S. history, a situation in which the personal insecurities of the president — and his refusal to accept what even many in his administration regard as objective reality — have impaired the government’s response to a national security threat. The repercussions radiate across the government.

Rather than search for ways to deter Kremlin attacks or safeguard U.S. elections, Trump has waged his own campaign to discredit the case that Russia poses any threat and he has resisted or attempted to roll back efforts to hold Moscow to account.

His administration has moved to undo at least some of the sanctions the previous administration imposed on Russia for its election interference, exploring the return of two Russian compounds in the United States that President Barack Obama had seized — the measure that had most galled Moscow. Months later, when Congress moved to impose additional penalties on Moscow, Trump opposed the measures fiercely.

Trump has never convened a Cabinet-level meeting on Russian interference or what to do about it, administration officials said. Although the issue has been discussed at lower levels at the National Security Council, one former high-ranking Trump administration official said there is an unspoken understanding within the NSC that to raise the matter is to acknowledge its validity, which the president would see as an affront.

Trump’s stance on the election is part of a broader entanglement with Moscow that has defined the first year of his presidency. He continues to pursue an elusive bond with Putin, which he sees as critical to dealing with North Korea, Iran and other issues. “Having Russia in a friendly posture,” he said last month, “is an asset to the world and an asset to our country.”

His position has alienated close American allies and often undercut members of his Cabinet — all against the backdrop of a criminal probe into possible ties between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

This account of the Trump administration’s reaction to Russia’s interference and policies toward Moscow is based on interviews with more than 50 current and former U.S. officials, many of whom had senior roles in the Trump campaign and transition team or have been in high-level positions at the White House or at national security agencies. Most agreed to speak only on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...prussia:homepage/story&utm_term=.dc05aaae3e3b
 
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Newenglanddeac said:
A long but good read from WAPO today. It will make you feel really good about the direction of our country.



"Nearly a year into his presidency, Trump continues to reject the evidence that Russia waged an assault on a pillar of American democracy and supported his run for the White House.

The result is without obvious parallel in U.S. history, a situation in which the personal insecurities of the president — and his refusal to accept what even many in his administration regard as objective reality — have impaired the government’s response to a national security threat. The repercussions radiate across the government.

Rather than search for ways to deter Kremlin attacks or safeguard U.S. elections, Trump has waged his own campaign to discredit the case that Russia poses any threat and he has resisted or attempted to roll back efforts to hold Moscow to account.

His administration has moved to undo at least some of the sanctions the previous administration imposed on Russia for its election interference, exploring the return of two Russian compounds in the United States that President Barack Obama had seized — the measure that had most galled Moscow. Months later, when Congress moved to impose additional penalties on Moscow, Trump opposed the measures fiercely.

Trump has never convened a Cabinet-level meeting on Russian interference or what to do about it, administration officials said. Although the issue has been discussed at lower levels at the National Security Council, one former high-ranking Trump administration official said there is an unspoken understanding within the NSC that to raise the matter is to acknowledge its validity, which the president would see as an affront.

Trump’s stance on the election is part of a broader entanglement with Moscow that has defined the first year of his presidency. He continues to pursue an elusive bond with Putin, which he sees as critical to dealing with North Korea, Iran and other issues. “Having Russia in a friendly posture,” he said last month, “is an asset to the world and an asset to our country.”

His position has alienated close American allies and often undercut members of his Cabinet — all against the backdrop of a criminal probe into possible ties between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

This account of the Trump administration’s reaction to Russia’s interference and policies toward Moscow is based on interviews with more than 50 current and former U.S. officials, many of whom had senior roles in the Trump campaign and transition team or have been in high-level positions at the White House or at national security agencies. Most agreed to speak only on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...prussia:homepage/story&utm_term=.dc05aaae3e3b
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Why are we waiting on that fat fuck to do something about election protection? We have a congress that....nevermind
 
Report: CIA Captured Putin’s ‘Specific Instructions’ to Hack the 2016 Election

"When Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., CIA Director John Brennan and FBI Director James B. Comey all went to see Donald Trump together during the presidential transition, they told him conclusively that they had “captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation” to hack the 2016 presidential election, according to a report in The Washington Post. The intel bosses were worried that he would explode but Trump remained calm during the carefully choreographed meeting. “He was affable, courteous, complimentary,” Clapper told the Post. Comey stayed behind afterward to tell the president-elect about the controversial Steele dossier, however, and that private meeting may have been responsible for the animosity that would eventually lead to Trump firing the director of the FBI."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/repor...ecific-instructions-to-hack-the-2016-election
 
Yeah, once the pissing stories get out in public then people stop acting reasonably. I think most interesting would be if that dossier was just made up political trash and its creation actually caused the downfall of our country. I mean put yourself in Trump's shoes if that was actually made up, you'd probably react as he has reacted.
 
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palmab03 said:
Yeah, once the pissing stories get out in public then people stop acting reasonably. I think most interesting would be if that dossier was just made up political trash and its creation actually caused the downfall of our country. I mean put yourself in Trump's shoes if that was actually made up, you'd probably react as he has reacted.
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A large portion of the dossier has been verified.

And I wouldn't find myself in Donald's shoes because I wouldn't acquiesce with Russia's plans to swing the election in my favor if I were running for president.
 
I wonder if there is a single person that voted for Hillary, or at least didn't vote for Trump, that at any point this year has gone "Well, I had my doubts about Trump, but he's actually been great."
 
This is a really really good read written by 2 former CIA officers and a former FBI agent...on why the Trump/Russia scandal is so dangerous and how Trump and his entire team are likely compromised. Not terribly long either.


Collusion Doesn’t Have to be Criminal to be a Threat

"This inexplicable policy position, combined with the administration’s pattern of deception, suggests two explanations (which are not mutually exclusive): The first is that Russia’s relationship with at least some members of the campaign did proceed, and involved ethically or legally questionable activities that the campaign needs to conceal. Second, it may be that members of the Trump campaign have engaged in problematic activities known to Russia – related or unrelated to the election itself – which Russia now holds as a sword of Damocles over them. Either way, it strongly suggests that Russia could have leverage over those who are now in charge of protecting the United States, rendering them unable to act solely in the interest of our country."

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"But the truth is that “collusion” with the Kremlin doesn’t have to be criminal to be dangerous. If the Trump campaign received offers of assistance from Russia, and they did nothing to discourage that help (or even encouraged it), they are indebted to a foreign adversary whose national interests are opposed to those of the United States. You can be sure that at some point, Putin will come to collect, if he has not done so already – and when it comes to protecting our democracy the administration will be a puppet of a foreign adversary, not our country’s first line of defense. While the potential criminal aspects of this case need to be investigated, we need to take a good look at what we already know. The national security threat is staring us right in the face."


Authors:

Alex Finley

former officer of the CIA’s Directorate of Operations, where she served in West Africa and Europe. She is the author of Victor in the Rubble, a satire about the CIA and the War on Terror. Follow her on Twitter (@alexzfinley).
Asha Rangappa

Senior Lecturer at Yale’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs. She served in the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a Special Agent (2002-2005) Follow her on Twitter (@AshaRangappa_).
John Sipher

Director of Customer Success at CrossLead, Retired Member of the CIA’s Senior Intelligence Service Follow him on Twitter (@john_sipher).

https://www.justsecurity.org/49682/collusion-criminal-threat/
 
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