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Rejecting words and actions which perpetrate, support or encourage white supremacists

ConnorEl said:
Charlottesville presents [NC] lawmakers with clear choice between right and wrong
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Charlottesville is also presenting a clear choice in what not to do in the aftermath of such an event - stop eating yourselves. As I reported a few pages back, an angry mob took over our city council meeting this past Monday for 6 hours. Said mob was largely angry about things that were outside the control of council, but then again, facts appear not to matter in our current climate. They threatened the mayor directly, jumped on and stood on the dais, and council had to leave chambers twice out of fear. Now let's be clear, council could have started arresting everyone who was out of order but chose not to (only arresting 2 folks). Now council is angry and is publicly going after the police chief and a city spokesperson and more subtly going after the city manager (which is unfortunate because he is a nice guy and historically has had little control over the police dept.). As for heads rolling, it's pretty clear that the police chief is dead man walking. He's fairly new, has no defenders in town, has few defenders on the force who largely see him as a do nothing manager and apparently told council to butt out of things a couple of weeks ago. So it looks like we'll be executing at least a couple of folks before the independent investigation is finished - who has time for such things? Also our mayor and vice-mayor, who both have yuge political ambition, are coming across as petty and overly willing to throw others under the bus. It's a shame because the community started out with a nice memorial service for Heather and then quickly descended into attacking each other.
 
The "liberal" folks in San Francisco have taken it upon themselves to be arbiters of the First Amendment. They can't leave the Union fast enough.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/2...ot-prayer-rally-by-walling-off-city-park.html

SAN FRANCISCO – Protesters opposing a right-wing gathering in liberal San Francisco claimed victory Saturday when the event was cancelled after city officials walled off a city park -- a move that the event's organizer said was more about silencing his group's message than preventing a violent clash.

Civic leaders in San Francisco -- a cradle of the free speech movement that prides itself on its tolerance -- repeatedly voiced concerns that the event organized by Patriot Prayer would lead to a clash with counter-demonstrators.

Joey Gibson, who is Japanese American and leads Patriot Prayer, said his group disavows racism and hatred and wanted to promote dialogue with people who may not share its views. He cancelled a planned rally Saturday at a field under the shadow of the Golden Gate Bridge after he said his members received anonymous threats on social media and feared civic leaders and law enforcement would fail to protect them. ...

San Francisco officials closed the park where Gibson had planned a news conference after cancelling the rally at Crissy Field. City officials surrounded Alamo Square park with a fence and sent scores of police officers -- some in riot gear -- to keep people out. Mayor Ed Lee defended the city's response.

"If people want to have the stage in San Francisco, they better have a message that contributes to people's lives rather than find ways to hurt them," Lee said. "That's why certain voices found it very difficult to have their voices heard today."

Gibson later spoke in suburban Pacifica with a handful of supporters that included African Americans, a Latino and a Samoan American. Several said they support President Donald Trump and want to join with moderates to promote understanding and free speech.
 
Mattis to Troops: ‘Hold the Line’ Until America is Less Divided

James Mattis gave a surprise motivational speech to a platoon of troops recently, where he asked them to hold firm while America tries to move past its current social divisions.

The Defense Secretary was filmed at an unknown location, where he gave an impromptu pep-talk to the attending soldiers and told them to keep up the good work. As he went on with his speech, Mattis said that the country is going through a number of “problems” at the moment.

“You’re a great example for our country right now and it’s got problems,” said Mattis. “You know it and I know it. It’s got problems we don’t have in the military. And you just hold the line, my fine soldiers, and sailors and airmen and Marines. Just hold the line until our country gets back to understanding and respecting each other and showing it.”


Mattis reportedly delivered these remarks in Jordan, where he also saluted the troops for representing and serving America abroad.

It’s not clear when exactly Mattis spoke, but ABC states that the video was posted while President Trump was embroiled in controversy over Charlottesville, and before Trump signed a memo last night to ban transgender people from serving in the military.

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/mattis-to-troops-hold-the-line-until-america-is-less-divided/amp/
 
"Hold the line" unless your gender doesn't match your private parts.

Screw that. You don't get to divide and the plead for unity.
 
RaleighDevil said:
The "liberal" folks in San Francisco have taken it upon themselves to be arbiters of the First Amendment. They can't leave the Union fast enough.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/2...ot-prayer-rally-by-walling-off-city-park.html

SAN FRANCISCO – Protesters opposing a right-wing gathering in liberal San Francisco claimed victory Saturday when the event was cancelled after city officials walled off a city park -- a move that the event's organizer said was more about silencing his group's message than preventing a violent clash.

Civic leaders in San Francisco -- a cradle of the free speech movement that prides itself on its tolerance -- repeatedly voiced concerns that the event organized by Patriot Prayer would lead to a clash with counter-demonstrators.

Joey Gibson, who is Japanese American and leads Patriot Prayer, said his group disavows racism and hatred and wanted to promote dialogue with people who may not share its views. He cancelled a planned rally Saturday at a field under the shadow of the Golden Gate Bridge after he said his members received anonymous threats on social media and feared civic leaders and law enforcement would fail to protect them. ...

San Francisco officials closed the park where Gibson had planned a news conference after cancelling the rally at Crissy Field. City officials surrounded Alamo Square park with a fence and sent scores of police officers -- some in riot gear -- to keep people out. Mayor Ed Lee defended the city's response.

"If people want to have the stage in San Francisco, they better have a message that contributes to people's lives rather than find ways to hurt them," Lee said. "That's why certain voices found it very difficult to have their voices heard today."

Gibson later spoke in suburban Pacifica with a handful of supporters that included African Americans, a Latino and a Samoan American. Several said they support President Donald Trump and want to join with moderates to promote understanding and free speech.
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Here's a little about Patriot Prayer:

"Just the week before, in Portland on Aug. 7, a rally led by Gibson featured numerous members of Portland’s white-supremacist scene, including a contingent from the student white-nationalist group Identity Evropa. Evropa members were leading participants in several of the brawls that erupted.

White nationalists, skinheads, and other “identitarian” activists have been involved in all of Gibson’s rallies in Portland, though generally without announcing their presence.

One participant at an early Gibson rally on April 29 in Portland was 35-year-old Jeremy Christian, who brought a baseball bat to the rally and spouted racist slurs and Nazi salutes; Christian was asked to leave by AFK members. Less than a month later, Christian stabbed two men to death on a Portland commuter train after they came to the defense of two young women, one wearing a hijab, being harassed by Christian. At his arraignment, Christian shouted: “Free speech or die!” and “You call it terrorism, I call it patriotism.”

"Gibson himself, while insisting he wants to spur dialogue, has given speeches at these events that flagrantly demonized liberals (he also has worn an Infowars “Hillary For Prison” shirt at events) and demonized Muslims. He proclaimed in one speech that Islam “is not a religion, it’s an ideology,” and went on to claim that discriminating against Muslims was not racism or bigotry.

This is a group that has had violence at several events. It's not peace and love as Devil tries to portray.
 
So RJ is into defending the deprivation of someone's First Amendment rights. What a time we live in. This is why the term liberal has lost its moorings.

Fascist: Anyone who disagrees with a progressive.

Antifa: Thugs dressed up in Halloween garb. Notice how often they do not have the decency to show their faces.
 
RaleighDevil said:
So RJ is into defending the deprivation of someone's First Amendment rights. What a time we live in. This is why the term liberal has lost its moorings.

Fascist: Anyone who disagrees with a progressive.

Antifa: Thugs dressed up in Halloween garb. Notice how often they do not have the decency to show their faces.
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Nazis: cool by RaleighDevil
 
RaleighDevil said:
So RJ is into defending the deprivation of someone's First Amendment rights. What a time we live in. This is why the term liberal has lost its moorings.

Fascist: Anyone who disagrees with a progressive.

Antifa: Thugs dressed up in Halloween garb. Notice how often they do not have the decency to show their faces.
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There is no right of free speech to incite violence. There never has been and never will be.
 
cville deac said:
Yeah, I think Mattis, McMaster and Kelly see part of their jobs as simply preventing Trump from doing anything too stupid. Given most of the rest of the cabinet, I'm glad there are at least a few adults in the room.
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Each of the five Joint Chiefs of Staff has clearly voiced opposition to Trump's position of hate and bigotry.
 
RJKarl said:
There is no right of free speech to incite violence. There never has been and never will be.
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They have a right to have a rally. You can't stop them from that unless, apparently, you live in San Francisco and Berkeley. Also, the constitutional case law is clear that a speaker has to be specific in directing threats before the authorities can make a move.
 
Noted racist and closet neo-Nazi Ronald Reagan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...5am-nhp:homepage/story&utm_term=.a949412793c5

President Reagan read the story about the cross burning in his morning Washington Post. A black family in College Park, Md., had just won a civil suit against a young Ku Klux Klan leader who had been convicted of terrorizing them five years earlier.

Reagan’s deputy press secretary, Larry Speakes, said the president was jarred by what had happened to Phillip and Barbara Butler. “That was the first thing on his mind this morning,” Speakes told The Post on May 3, 1982. White House Chief of Staff James Baker and Deputy Chief of Staff Michael Deaver walked into the Oval Office, and the first thing he said to them was, “ ‘I’ve read this story. I’d like to go see these people.’ " ...

Reagan chatted with Barbara Butler about growing up in California, where he had been a movie star and later governor. And he recalled how he had befriended William Franklin Burghardt, who was black and was the center on the 1931 Eureka College football team on which Reagan was a starting guard.

“In an incident celebrated by Reagan in his autobiography and confirmed by his football coach, Ralph McKinzie, Reagan took Burghardt and the team’s other black player into his own home when a hotel in a small Illinois town refused them admittance on a road trip in 1931,” Post political reporter Lou Cannon wrote in 1986. “Many public places in the Middle West in those days were as rigidly segregated as they were in the South.”

In College Park, the Reagans posed for a photo with the Butlers in front of the fireplace. The White House photographer snapped photos. After 20 minutes, the visit ended.

“The Reagans shook hands with the Butlers,” The Post reported. “Mrs. Reagan kissed Mrs. Butler on the cheek. The president hugged Mrs. Butler.”
 
RaleighDevil said:
They have a right to have a rally. You can't stop them from that unless, apparently, you live in San Francisco and Berkeley. Also, the constitutional case law is clear that a speaker has to be specific in directing threats before the authorities can make a move.
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Wrong again. You don't have a right rally if the group has a history of inciting violence.
 
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