Romney campaign admits it - They're in big trouble

[TuffaloDeac10]

So these people railing against republicans pandering to "the far right" think that the far right supports massive spending? You're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that, because you know it's bs. It's just people talking out of their ass. There hasn't been anyone far right running for president in a long time

There's a reason why Paul Ryan is bitching about the possibility of the sequester he voted for going into effect.

 

[PhDeac]

It's a damn fine "pretty much exactly what happened". Huntsman never cared about anywhere other than NH. Hardly even went to Iowa. Then as soon the NH primary is over, even though he finished 3rd, he's done and endorses Romney.

Job done. Not to mention Huntsman's daughter creating the false flag video mocking his adopted Chinese daughter. Paul people traced it back to Abby Huntsman Livingston.

It's amazing how hard the Republican establishment worked to make sure Paul didn't win. They even cheated when they didn't need to cheat. Pretty dumb, considering they cheated the people that might have been the only future their party had.

I called it fine because it seemed plausible.

 

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I looked at it, Romney basically has to pull a straight to win. He cannot lose OH, VA and FL. Period.

That's pretty freakin tough.

But how else was he going to win?

 

[Spot the Wonder]

The most recent polling from Ohio isn't all that bad for Romney:

Carter, burdened with 21% interest rates, double digit unemployment, etc., was ahead of Reagan in one poll on the Friday before the election, and Reagan was ahead in the other. The tie broke and Reagan won a solid victory.

At this point in 2008 Obama was ahead of McCain by approximately 7-8 points.

Romney is well positioned to win the election, and of course, as the incumbent Obama can win as well. Without boring you, my prediction from May still holds. Romney will win 53 to Obama's 47. There are many factors that point in that direction.

So much to love here.

1) Both the Obama and Romney campaign's internals show a high single digit Obama lead in Ohio. That's what the campaigns will base their strategy on, so fuck the other polls.
2) The state of polling and speed of information has changed a great deal in the last 32 years, don't you think?
3) In 2008, Obama won by 7.2%. What's your point.
4) Romeny is well positioned?? Your prediction of Romney by 6 points is beyond fantasy

Am I just feeding the troll?

 

[TuffaloDeac10]

I looked at it, Romney basically has to pull a straight to win. He cannot lose OH, VA and FL. Period.

That's pretty freakin tough.

But how else was he going to win?

Have a sensible moderate plan (like he did in MA!) and promise to control the GOP idiots in the House?

 

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Have a sensible moderate plan (like he did in MA!) and promise to control the GOP idiots in the House?

That's not going to win him any more States than what he already needs.

Obama has 221 EVs locked up. OH, VA, FL, NH, NV, CO, IA, maybe WI and maybe NC. Romney HAS to win 5 of those States. Pretty tough BUT if he's going to win, that's how he's gonna do it.

 

[FuckmouthedRube]

Far right? If by far right you mean social issues, ok

The 2008 version of Mitt, Santorum, Newt, Perry, Bachmann, and Cain are waaaaay far right on social issues. Santorum and Bachmann signed some loopy social conservative manifesto by the guy who lost the GOP Governor's primary in Iowa (given that Iowa has a sitting GOP Governor-why would you deal with the guy who he beat?). The manifesto, which the other dozen hapless chuckleheads then running in Iowa wisely shunned, extolled the family values of slavery (overlooking that pesky business about selling families piecemeal). Mitt's been terrified of offending social conservatives, so he never moved back to the center. That's marginalized him among moderates and independents, and magnified his opportunistic flip flopping when contrasted what he said and did in MA.

Akin is a caveman, but his views on abortion are exactly those of the GOP platform and of Paul Ryan, who's sponsored anti-abortion legislation with Akin. The same people rejoicing when Ryan was tabbed are terrified that people might examine Ryan's voting and legislative record on social issues.

 

[TuffaloDeac10]

The 2008 version of Mitt, Santorum, Newt, Perry, Bachmann, and Cain are waaaaay far right on social issues. Santorum and Bachmann signed some loopy social conservative manifesto by the guy who lost the GOP Governor's primary in Iowa (given that Iowa has a sitting GOP Governor-why would you deal with the guy who he beat?). The manifesto, which the other dozen hapless chuckleheads then running in Iowa wisely shunned, extolled the family values of slavery (overlooking that pesky business about selling families piecemeal). Mitt's been terrified of offending social conservatives, so he never moved back to the center. That's marginalized him among moderates and independents, and magnified his opportunistic flip flopping when contrasted what he said and did in MA.

Akin is a caveman, but his views on abortion are exactly those of the GOP platform and of Paul Ryan, who's sponsored anti-abortion legislation with Akin. The same people rejoicing when Ryan was tabbed are terrified that people might examine Ryan's voting and legislative record on social issues.

Shit, examine Paul Ryan on anything. He's a joke. Each version of the Path to Prosperity has had wholesale changes from the year before (e.g. capital gains tax is cut to 0%, then it's not mentioned) and then he goes and gets the spending cuts scored but tells the CBO to ignore the tax provisions. How does that work? He's a joke, the GOP is a joke, Mitt's a joke, the Right is a joke.

 

[TuffaloDeac10]

Paul Ryan has been a clownshow his entire time in congress, except for the time he endorsed Keynesian stimulus in 2002 and the time he voted for TARP.

 

[beatrix]

He's doing it again....with healthcare this time. Romney has a different position on every issue, depending upon where he is and who he is talking to. Does he not understand that everything he says is being recorded? The guy is a total joke. This election is going to wind up being almost as bad as the McCain landslide.....in spite of the ongoing economic problems (which most voters realize that the Bush/Cheney policies created and the GOP House obstruction has perpetuated).

Because two years of unfettered power just wasn’t enough time to prioritize the important stuff….

 

[RJKarl]

Unlike Republicans, Dems votes aren't as easily dictated by party leaders. House Pubs are afraid not to vote a party line.

It is undeniable that House GOP put winning an election over the well being of the American people by killing the roads/jobs act which passed the Senate with about 50% of GOP Senate voted for it.

Boehner, Ryan and Cantor knew if they passed that bill unemployment would be under 7% and Obama would win in a landslide. There is no way around this. I have never seen either party do something to intentionally harm millions of people to hopefully win an election.

 

[Ball State Deac]

Unlike Republicans, Dems votes aren't as easily dictated by party leaders. House Pubs are afraid not to vote a party line.

It is undeniable that House GOP put winning an election over the well being of the American people by killing the roads/jobs act which passed the Senate with about 50% of GOP Senate voted for it.

Boehner, Ryan and Cantor knew if they passed that bill unemployment would be under 7% and Obama would win in a landslide. There is no way around this. I have never seen either party do something to intentionally harm millions of people to hopefully win an election.

From a purely political standpoint it was also a strange move. It is better for GOP congressional members if Obama is in the WH. They are all more likely to retain their seats and to build an even bigger majority in two years.

 

[Deadbolt]

From a purely political standpoint it was also a strange move. It is better for GOP congressional members if Obama is in the WH. They are all more likely to retain their seats and to build an even bigger majority in two years.

These past few years have not really followed any political norms.

 

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These past few years have not really followed any political norms.

Yeah, I was totally gonna post that Dukakis at this point was up double digits, but the country has certainly changed since 88.

 

[Liquid Karma]

Yeah, I was totally gonna post that Dukakis at this point was up double digits, but the country has certainly changed since 88.

So has polling due to the internet.

 

[Spot the Wonder]

Because two years of unfettered power just wasn’t enough time to prioritize the important stuff….

The Dems never had "two years of unfettered power". Do we have to go through this again?

 

[ncsportsnut1]

Gravis Marketing is a joke. They are the guys calling for a Romney landslide. Come to think if it, ncsportsnut is a joke, too.

In 57 days all this will be over, and people can forget about Mitt Romney forever.....and he can do what he does best, go back to gorging himself with money made from eliminating American jobs.

thanks for the shout out BKF, very kind of ya

 

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Romney's about to spend a shit load of money, should be interesting at least.

 

[ncsportsnut1]

So much to love here.

1) Both the Obama and Romney campaign's internals show a high single digit Obama lead in Ohio. That's what the campaigns will base their strategy on, so fuck the other polls.
2) The state of polling and speed of information has changed a great deal in the last 32 years, don't you think?
3) In 2008, Obama won by 7.2%. What's your point.
4) Romeny is well positioned?? Your prediction of Romney by 6 points is beyond fantasy

Am I just feeding the troll?

1) Would like to know your source for the campaigns internal polling data.
2) Of course, just like everything information related. Not sure what your point is though.
3) Obama's margin of 7.6 at this time in 2008 is compared to approximately 1.5% today. If the "composite polling data" is close or accurate, this race is much closer and very winnable for Romney. Your turn.
4) Romney is well positioned financially, and voter enthusiasm on Republican side is much higher than Democrat side and has been all year. Romney is winning independents, married female voters, large margin on white males (white voters are still 77-80% of likely voters), black voter turnout will be much less than the record turnout of 2008 and will return to more traditional #s see 2004; Hispanic voter registration is down compared to 2008; Dem registration in 10 battlegrounds down 1 million compared to 2008 and Republicans are even now in battlegrounds. There's a few for starters.

 

[RJKarl]

The Dems never had "two years of unfettered power". Do we have to go through this again?

Spot during those two years Obama:

Signed equal pay for equal work
Signed the Stimulus that created or saved over 3M jobs (ask governors)
Saved GM -stopped a depression
Passed healthcare- had been tried over 100 years starting with Teddy Roosevelt
Expanded Pell Grants
ended the War in Iraq
Closed black sites
ended ban on stem cell research

I'm sure there are a lot more, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.