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Glancing around social media I'm a little surprised at how dominant the "let everyone transfer and play immediately wherever permanently" viewpoint is.

Most think that the player(s) they are getting are better than the player(s) they otherwise would have at a given position. So of course many are going to be in favor of immediate eligibility for an incoming transfer.

Look at Sarr to KY. He'll be the best center with college experience on the team.

Very few schools are in the situation of Wake, losing what should have been the top two returning players on the team, along with other players and recruits.

Wake's whole rising senior class hit the portal. None are expected back. At least some of those guys left with the expectation of playing elsewhere in 2020-2021.
 
Anybody else hear about players "entering the portal" in some way and think of the video game?

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Glancing around social media I'm a little surprised at how dominant the "let everyone transfer and play immediately wherever permanently" viewpoint is.

This would kill 95% of college programs. It would be free agency every year. Would Kentucky basketball or Alabama football even recruit high schoolers or would they pick the best players at FCS, non power 5, or lower p5 teams?
 
This would kill 95% of college programs. It would be free agency every year. Would Kentucky basketball or Alabama football even recruit high schoolers or would they pick the best players at FCS, non power 5, or lower p5 teams?

Exactly...Mid-majors would become the minors for P6 schools. In football it would be even worse.
 
It'd be a terrible rule and would only hurt collebe basketball more, which already has significant challenges on its hands
 
Yeah, the idea of just letting everyone out of their commitments is a great idea, if you don't think about it.
 
This would kill 95% of college programs. It would be free agency every year. Would Kentucky basketball or Alabama football even recruit high schoolers or would they pick the best players at FCS, non power 5, or lower p5 teams?

I get what you’re saying, but the players they would recruit out of high school are better than those players. Otherwise, those players wouldn’t be at the level you’re mentioning.

Essentially, Alabama and Kentucky would do both.
 
This would kill 95% of college programs. It would be free agency every year. Would Kentucky basketball or Alabama football even recruit high schoolers or would they pick the best players at FCS, non power 5, or lower p5 teams?

The very top schools would continue to recruit the five star and high four star talent. Then they would pick up upperclassmen from G-5 and lower P5 to fill in where guys didn't develop etc. The lower schools would have those who were 3 star out of high school for a while but could lose them after they grew and developed into NFL level players as rJr and rSr.

Guys like Phil Haynes. Its happening some already. Look at Georgia taking Wake QB and KY taking Sarr.
 
The very top schools would continue to recruit the five star and high four star talent. Then they would pick up upperclassmen from G-5 and lower P5 to fill in where guys didn't develop etc. The lower schools would have those who were 3 star out of high school for a while but could lose them after they grew and developed into NFL level players as rJr and rSr.

Guys like Phil Haynes. Its happening some already. Look at Georgia taking Wake QB and KY taking Sarr.

Don't think the transfer rule would have the "sky is falling" (all our good players would go to Bama to play football and KY for basketball) impact that everyone projects.

These days, the great players will always go pro when it is an option. Most other players will stay with their program as long as that program on a solid footing. Sarr (and Brown) transferred because WF changed coaches and WF had been epically bad for years; that is exactly the situation when players should be allowed to transfer without sitting out. Anyone surprised or upset that a couple players decided to leave the current WF basketball program have not been paying attention. WF is at the bottom, but we are building the program back to where it can and should be. WF will be a destination program.

Solid Power V programs (like those coached by Forbes and Clawson) are not going to typically lose their best players to other programs in the coming years. Newman was a weird situation with a bunch of contributing factors (one big factor was that Hartman remained close in Newman's rear view mirror, and if Hartman took any Newman playing time next year, which was a likely scenario, Newman knew it would really hurt his NFL hopes).

The grad transfer rule has been around for all of Clawson's time at WF (which applied to a lot of stud WF players like Herron, Haynes, Hinton, Strnad, Cam Glenn, Benzinger, Duke Ejiofor among others) and Newman is the first key contributor that has left the program (sorry not counting Tabari Hines - he was just another guy). As WF continues to have solid coaches, WF would net gain good/contributing players if the NCAA transfer rule was adopted. Amazing to me how it's WF fans that perpetuate the LOWF attitude. Good/great players want to play WF, and this rule is just another chance for WF to land those players. FWIW, this rule has been around and most other sports for a couple of years, and the better athletes in those sports generally elect to play for WF rather than leave WF.
 
Reducing football roster size again would also help here. It prevents hoarding, and spreads talent more evenly across all teams.
 
The very top schools would continue to recruit the five star and high four star talent. Then they would pick up upperclassmen from G-5 and lower P5 to fill in where guys didn't develop etc. The lower schools would have those who were 3 star out of high school for a while but could lose them after they grew and developed into NFL level players as rJr and rSr.

Guys like Phil Haynes. Its happening some already. Look at Georgia taking Wake QB and KY taking Sarr.

Well, if UGA and KY are major league, at least that makes us Triple A.
 
Don't think the transfer rule would have the "sky is falling" (all our good players would go to Bama to play football and KY for basketball) impact that everyone projects.

These days, the great players will always go pro when it is an option. Most other players will stay with their program as long as that program on a solid footing. Sarr (and Brown) transferred because WF changed coaches and WF had been epically bad for years; that is exactly the situation when players should be allowed to transfer without sitting out. Anyone surprised or upset that a couple players decided to leave the current WF basketball program have not been paying attention. WF is at the bottom, but we are building the program back to where it can and should be. WF will be a destination program.

Solid Power V programs (like those coached by Forbes and Clawson) are not going to typically lose their best players to other programs in the coming years. Newman was a weird situation with a bunch of contributing factors (one big factor was that Hartman remained close in Newman's rear view mirror, and if Hartman took any Newman playing time next year, which was a likely scenario, Newman knew it would really hurt his NFL hopes).

The grad transfer rule has been around for all of Clawson's time at WF (which applied to a lot of stud WF players like Herron, Haynes, Hinton, Strnad, Cam Glenn, Benzinger, Duke Ejiofor among others) and Newman is the first key contributor that has left the program (sorry not counting Tabari Hines - he was just another guy). As WF continues to have solid coaches, WF would net gain good/contributing players if the NCAA transfer rule was adopted. Amazing to me how it's WF fans that perpetuate the LOWF attitude. Good/great players want to play WF, and this rule is just another chance for WF to land those players. FWIW, this rule has been around and most other sports for a couple of years, and the better athletes in those sports generally elect to play for WF rather than leave WF.

Now Newman has Carson Beck in his rear view mirror, who was significantly more highly rated coming out of HS then either Newman or Hartman. I'm sure UGA would prefer to RS Beck, though.
 
Now Newman has Carson Beck in his rear view mirror, who was significantly more highly rated coming out of HS then either Newman or Hartman. I'm sure UGA would prefer to RS Beck, though.

I'm not so sure about that, as they have the top Pro style QB in the nation coming in in 2021.
 
Reducing football roster size again would also help here. It prevents hoarding, and spreads talent more evenly across all teams.

Agreed.

And this would swing both ways. We’d get a chance at an NC kid who went to went to Bama and immediately got recruited over.

I think I’m fine with a one time transfer for players that meet a few conditions:
—graduated with a bachelors degree (keep the grad transfer policy)
—played fewer than 25% of possible minutes/plays in the season, including games missed due to injury
—change of head coach (transfer anywhere)
—change of assistant coach (can transfer to join the assistant coach)
 
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