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Shooting at an Orlando Gay Night Club

Junebug said:
Dungeons and Dragons is Friday night. Call of Duty is Saturday night. And it's at Robert E.'s basement because his mom works the graveyard shift at the gun factory.

But don't let the FACTS get in your way.
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FUCK. Apologies, I tried to posrep this but somehow fucked it up. Sorry, Junebug..

That was some funny shit.
 
The Orlando shooter reportedly gave his wife access to his bank account before the attack, and now she's missing
Omar Mateen, 29, added his wife, 30-year-old Noor Salman, to his life-insurance policy and gave her access to his bank accounts, CNN reported on Friday, citing unidentified law-enforcement sources.

Now, Salman has vanished,according to the Sun Sentinel.
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She's "no longer here," Omar Mateen's father, Seddique, told reporters outside of his Fort Pierce, Florida, home on Wednesday.

Salman was reportedly living with Mateen's father in Fort Pierce when her husband attacked the nightclub. Public records list her most recent address — presumably where she lived with Mateen after they married in 2013 — as a 15-minute drive from his father's home in Fort Pierce.

But Seddique told reporters that Salman was no longer in the area, either.
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At one point, Salman was cooperating with the FBI. She told the agency that she was aware of her husband's intentions to attack the club and tried to talk him out of it.

Sources told CNN on Friday that the two were texting during the attack, and that Salman tried to call him several times after news of the shooting broke, but he did not answer.

In the texts, Mateen asked his wife if she had "seen the news." Salman then told Mateen that she loved him, CNN reported. Salman deleted all of her social-media accounts shortly after the shooting occurred and has not given interviews to the press.

A grand jury is currently weighing whether or not to charge Salman with a crime for withholding information from police about her husband's plans.
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Mateen was investigated twice by the FBI in 2013 and 2014 for his suspected ties to terrorists, but the cases were closed when authorities concluded that Mateen did not pose a substantive national-security threat.
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http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/17/the-orlando-shooter-reportedly-gave-his-wife-access-to-his-bank/21397563/
 
In a 1 on 1 battle, the guy who is already firing his rifle has the advantage.
 
Potential changes in law that might help:

1) Limit magazines to 12 or so bullets (exemptions available for law enforcement or similar need)
2) Make concealed carry license more difficult to obtain. Require X amount of hours of training or practice per year. Require proficiency test that must be passed each year. Be required to pass psychological test to obtain license.
3) Make gun free zones illegal nationwide. With this license, you can carry in any PUBLIC space in the country at any time.

We want more trained good guys with a gun. Just having more guns on the street will not make us safer, but having more trained, law abiding people with guns would.
 
knowell said:
Potential changes in law that might help:

1) Limit magazines to 12 or so bullets (exemptions available for law enforcement or similar need)
2) Make concealed carry license more difficult to obtain. Require X amount of hours of training or practice per year. Require proficiency test that must be passed each year. Be required to pass psychological test to obtain license.
3) Make gun free zones illegal nationwide. With this license, you can carry in any PUBLIC space in the country at any time.

We want more trained good guys with a gun. Just having more guns on the street will not make us safer, but having more trained, law abiding people with guns would.
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These don't sound that bad. Having to do testing or training every year might be a lot - maybe every 2 or 3 years. Expanded background checks for concealed carry certainly makes sense. It also makes sense to have to update background checks every once in a while - just because you pass the check now doesn't mean you would still pass it 5 years later.
 
There's no reason not to have 100% background checks on every sales, gift or transfer of ownership of a weapon.

There's also no reason not to have registration of guns. The concept of this leading to confiscation makes Santa riding a unicorn to get the leprechauns gold realistic.
 
In the context of gun violence and mass shootings, what is the purpose of making a CCP harder to obtain?

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myDeaconmyhand said:
In the context of gun violence and mass shootings, what is the purpose of making a CCP harder to obtain?

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Things like training courses attempt to ensure that people with guns in public have some modicum of knowledge on how to handle them. That's good on a day in and day out basis, but it is also good in the event the person carrying is, God for bid, called upon to draw and use their gun.
 
Junebug said:
Things like training courses attempt to ensure that people with guns in public have some modicum of knowledge on how to handle them. That's good on a day in and day out basis, but it is also good in the event the person carrying is, God for bid, called upon to draw and use their gun.
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I'm still not sure how that works as a preventative measure.

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knowell said:
Potential changes in law that might help:

1) Limit magazines to 12 or so bullets (exemptions available for law enforcement or similar need)
2) Make concealed carry license more difficult to obtain. Require X amount of hours of training or practice per year. Require proficiency test that must be passed each year. Be required to pass psychological test to obtain license.
3) Make gun free zones illegal nationwide. With this license, you can carry in any PUBLIC space in the country at any time.

We want more trained good guys with a gun. Just having more guns on the street will not make us safer, but having more trained, law abiding people with guns would.
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Can we stop with this shit?

We don't want more trained good guys with a gun. We want fewer people with a gun period
 
Why would anyone think guns are a good idea in bars, sporting events, concerts, or movie theatres?
 
FuckmouthedRube said:
Why would anyone think guns are a good idea in bars, sporting events, concerts, or movie theatres?
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Why would anyone think that an extended waiting period for a CCP is a legitimate gun control concession? Why would jhmd think we could limit gun ownership to the "elites"? We could go on and on with these questions, but we already know the answer.

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knowell, open carry or concealed carry for #3?
 
The last thing we need is a ton of poser cowboys strutting around hoping to live out a fantasy they practiced in video games. That would not make me feel safe.
 
I think it should be MS carry for the RNC Convention. They should get 100 round drums, A-15s and semi-automatic hand guns.
 
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